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Google Will Soon Let Users Automatically Scrub Location and Web History

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Re: Google Will Soon Let Users Automatically Scrub Location and Web History

#111
It would have been fairer to let the users decide how many days precisely they want to keep history, and let everyone find their sweet spots.

And, sure, it's deleted from Google. Is it also deleted from ads networks after Google shared the data with them? I doubt about it.

Re: Google Will Soon Let Users Automatically Scrub Location and Web History

#112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One nice form of regulation would be a mechanism to let companies in this situation make a formal and binding privacy claim, that would then expose them to painful consequences if shown to be untrue. Right now we just have to take Google's word for it, but if they were willing to pinky swear (figuratively speaking), it would let people trust them more, and possibly let them offer new kinds of services.

> One nice form of regulation would be a mechanism to let companies in this situation make a formal and binding privacy claim, that would then expose them to painful consequences if shown to be untrue. Or you could just make making false representations to get anything of value from people a tort generally , and in egregious cases a crime as well, rather than making it a privacy-specific regulation, and without makin…

Your scenario means you have to sue Google and win, as well as prove damages. That has historically just not worked. When Snapchat was shown to be collecting location data after explicitly promising not to, for example, they just got a slap on the wrist.

I'm taking about a system that would let companies voluntarily increase their legal exposure to specific claims as a proof of commitment. That would allow companies to pick a level of privacy protection they wanted to offer, and market to customers based on that commitment, in an enforceable and credible way.

Re: Google Will Soon Let Users Automatically Scrub Location and Web History

#113

This is welcomed, but they might do better to remove the requirement to have the Web/Location/App history enabled for apparently unrelated features. E.g. I cant store my home location in Google Maps without turning on Web & App activity history. Why? I cant share my current location (not historic, just my latest location - they only need to store one) with my partner unless I turn on Web and Location history. Why? I…

Likewise. I don't think it's reasonable to require these permissions in order to use a Google Home device or the Google Assistant, for instance. I can understand needing to remember the last query, in order to provide context for the next one. Automatic scrubbing would be helpful...but it's missing an "every 10 minutes" option. (Today, my solution is a completely separate Google account that only gets used for Google…

It would surprise me if Google didn't have those accounts linked anyway, thus undermining your policy.

A Google employee once called me on my personal cell phone when I was a few minutes late to a business meeting. I still don't see how that could've happened unless they'd linked my work (g-suite) account with my personal (gmail) account, and then allowed their employees to access personal data in a totally inappropriate fashion.

Maybe there's some other explanation, but I can't fathom what it would have been.

Re: Google Will Soon Let Users Automatically Scrub Location and Web History

#114
What's the over/under on how long before this feature 'accidentally' breaks? I'd bet even money on it 'malfunctioning' in less than 1 year.

Just like so many of the privacy features put out by FANG companies, which mysteriously undo themselves upon update roll outs. Funny how I've never seen those roll outs cause the privacy features to automatically turn on, only off.

Still better than nothing, I appreciate the option, but I can't help but being VERY skeptical about this.

Re: Google Will Soon Let Users Automatically Scrub Location and Web History

#116
post #73

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I just stopped using Android after shit like this. Privacy is an afterthought at best, despite the great new permissions model. And it's absolutely not Android's fault as much it is app developers' faults. Want to use an app that tracks your dreams? Most devs will have you sign up for their terrible service so they can store the information in plaintext on a server. At least with iOS most devs seem to opt for CloudKi…

Not sure why this would be down-voted, unless people are really just that tribalistic about phone/tablet OS choice.

Didn't downvote, but Android has had dynamic permissions (since v6?) whose repeated notifications you can suppress, so I'm confused if the comment is still valid.

Re: Google Will Soon Let Users Automatically Scrub Location and Web History

#117

This is welcomed, but they might do better to remove the requirement to have the Web/Location/App history enabled for apparently unrelated features. E.g. I cant store my home location in Google Maps without turning on Web & App activity history. Why? I cant share my current location (not historic, just my latest location - they only need to store one) with my partner unless I turn on Web and Location history. Why? I…

Here is another nudge: how easily can you write a rule to delete from gmail inbox after say X days? (same question for outlook.com, icloud.com etc) There are ways for technical users, but it nudges users to leave all the juicy data to the company, which can then use it in any way it feels (including monetization)

I dare say that I don't expect automatic deletion of emails from your inbox is not a feature many users are clamoring for, whether they have privacy concerns or not. Hence I don't think the lack of it is for monetization puposes or the lack.

Re: Google Will Soon Let Users Automatically Scrub Location and Web History

#119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Likewise. I don't think it's reasonable to require these permissions in order to use a Google Home device or the Google Assistant, for instance. I can understand needing to remember the last query, in order to provide context for the next one. Automatic scrubbing would be helpful...but it's missing an "every 10 minutes" option. (Today, my solution is a completely separate Google account that only gets used for Google…

It would surprise me if Google didn't have those accounts linked anyway, thus undermining your policy. A Google employee once called me on my personal cell phone when I was a few minutes late to a business meeting. I still don't see how that could've happened unless they'd linked my work (g-suite) account with my personal (gmail) account, and then allowed their employees to access personal data in a totally inappropr…

There's probably some other explanation. I wasn't under the impression Google employees can just go read your data like this. And if you want to believe imagine they can -- it'd be dumb of them to do it in this fashion. If you didn't leave your number on your emails/website/resumes/Facebook/etc. or given it out previously then maybe the employee got it from someone else who had your number.

Re: Google Will Soon Let Users Automatically Scrub Location and Web History

#120
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So does this actually delete it ... for Google? Deleting it from say my browser, maps, or other history is one thing. Does Google no longer have any of it? Also the top and bottom bars that leave me with like 1/3 usable space on google's blog is really frustrating to read on: https://blog.google/technology/safety-security/automatically...

In Europe at least it would probably be a violation of GDPR to not actually delete it on request of the user if it is considered personal data.
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