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Jack Dorsey Is Gwyneth Paltrow for Silicon Valley

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Re: Jack Dorsey Is Gwyneth Paltrow for Silicon Valley

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For some time I've searched a way to define him (that didn't include insults) and this one is quite good.

Can't understand how people can follow this guy and his trivial/dumb advices. To me, he is just like that person that can't stop blabbering about stuff that has been around for decades but that he has just discovered or one of those people that blindly follow every popular trend (see the ones listed in the article) without even thinking if they really should.

Re: Jack Dorsey Is Gwyneth Paltrow for Silicon Valley

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Shows that engineers in Silicon Valley aren't any more skeptical than Hollywood. We may consider ourselves smarter, but we're just as susceptible to bullshit as anyone.

Americans, especially young men, are looking for a leader. We see similar phenomena with politicians and social figures like Joe Rogan or Jordan Peterson, and Musk as mentioned. It's less about the bs and more about the leader, and maybe its just due to visibility but guys definitely tend to congregate around men with strong images or strict rules for living. I have to wonder what their home lives looked like.

Re: Jack Dorsey Is Gwyneth Paltrow for Silicon Valley

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Shows that engineers in Silicon Valley aren't any more skeptical than Hollywood. We may consider ourselves smarter, but we're just as susceptible to bullshit as anyone.

I'd had an engineer recently fracture his foot running in a race.

He took a day off, went to a doctor and was told he need to wear a boot, stay off his foot for a while, etc. He proceeds to come into the office, proudly informing everyone how he knows better than the doctor, and that he only needs to rub peppermint oil and wear a compression sock. All while hobbling around the office, clearly in pain. Everyone pleaded with him to heed to the doctor's advice, and I even showed him how I have a messed up arm from a childhood incident that improperly healed and tried explaining the necessity of heeding basic medical guidance.

Didn't matter, this engineer "just knows" better than a doctor.

This is a weird world.

Re: Jack Dorsey Is Gwyneth Paltrow for Silicon Valley

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It’s sad how people cargo cult imitate the people who inspire them to such a degree it becomes disconnected and degenerate. At least with Steve Jobs there was a certain distance to the admiration. (They admired the accomplishments, rather than his persona —maybe it helped that he was “mercurial” and gruff), but with smooth talkers like Dorsey or Paltrow who look so wholesome, much reason is thrown out the window. At…

I'm sorry to say that Jobs had a lot of people throwing reason out the window as well. Elizabeth Holmes is a great example of the cargo cult around his style and management methods. And when he died, people literally built an altar to him: https://surjgish.com/2011/miscellaneous-fun/dia-de-los-muert...

Re: Jack Dorsey Is Gwyneth Paltrow for Silicon Valley

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While Dorsey is rather extreme, his lifestyle is a lot healthier than the average American’s or most everyone’s in the developed world. Eating junk food around the clock is really bad for you. Note that Dorsey isn’t fat and diabetic like so many people these days.

Cool, you also just described Gwyenth Paltrow.

Re: Jack Dorsey Is Gwyneth Paltrow for Silicon Valley

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Shows that engineers in Silicon Valley aren't any more skeptical than Hollywood. We may consider ourselves smarter, but we're just as susceptible to bullshit as anyone.

I keep waiting for butter coffee to take off in San Francisco. Maybe if you had to wait in line for 20 minutes?

Re: Jack Dorsey Is Gwyneth Paltrow for Silicon Valley

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While Dorsey is rather extreme, his lifestyle is a lot healthier than the average American’s or most everyone’s in the developed world. Eating junk food around the clock is really bad for you. Note that Dorsey isn’t fat and diabetic like so many people these days.

Cool, you also just described Gwyenth Paltrow.

Okay, now tell me what’s wrong about not being fat and diabetic. Note I certainly don’t endorse veganism where you’re missing out on essential fats and proteins.

Re: Jack Dorsey Is Gwyneth Paltrow for Silicon Valley

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While Dorsey is rather extreme, his lifestyle is a lot healthier than the average American’s or most everyone’s in the developed world. Eating junk food around the clock is really bad for you. Note that Dorsey isn’t fat and diabetic like so many people these days.

"Not as bad as", aka The Fallacy of Relative Privation, is a "red herring" fallacy.

It is a distraction, a diversion, and, in so many words, whataboutism.

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