Microsoft, currently the most valuable company, is having a Nadellaissance

Post by cutenewt » Thu, May 02, 2019, 5:41 PM UTC

maxxxxx wrote: post #19

1024core wrote: post #2

Satya has done a tremendous job turning around Microsoft. It was headed in the direction of becoming a slowly sinking behemoth under Ballmer, but he's turned it around. Sundar, on the other hand, is just content collecting $$ and showing more ads.

In what way was MS sinking under Ballmer? Maybe they were not exciting but they were super profitable every year. I think it's more about better PR. Not everything is golden at MS now either. I am working on creating a platform for our medical software on Windows 10 and it really makes me want to switch to Linux or iOS. Windows is a big mess of old and new code and attempts of sandboxing like iOS but only half-hearte…

Post by bradford » Thu, May 02, 2019, 5:42 PM UTC

kuzehanka wrote: post #45

johnsea wrote: post #41

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If people don't pay for software maintenance, e.g. Windows 10 updates, what do you do? Ads, harvest data... Windows (likely) always could offer better privacy for a fee. You can buy a Windows computer incl. services at a price point you can only dream of Apple hardware. Facebook/Inst/Wapp and Google show that the majority of people go with 'Geiz ist geil' (cheap is cool), privacy be damned. Awareness doesn't necessar…

Linux seems to be doing just fine keeping software maintained without ads or harvesting data. This mindset is toxic and needs to die.

Post by ZanyProgrammer » Thu, May 02, 2019, 5:43 PM UTC

maxxxxx wrote: post #114

baybal2 wrote: post #48

I'm failing to see what has changed. Point is that they still make the lion share of their revenue from milking PC OEMs and plumpy corporate clients. The fact that they changed tools for doing so, does not change the scheme at large. Their hosting service Azure just took over their AD and sharepoint clients with some extra being the genuine new clientele I'd say that under Nadella, they grew even more recalcitrant, a…

“A lot of oldtimer MS devs I knew say that now they got a genuine fear of every new tech coming from MS almost customarily becoming an abandonware in 2-3 years term.” That’s how I have been feeling from around the time WPF came out... And they reinforce that fear regularly.

Post by bovermyer » Thu, May 02, 2019, 5:44 PM UTC

maxxxxx wrote: post #111

calvinbhai wrote: post #93

Having read Nadella's book Hit Refresh as soon as it went on sale, Microsoft performance since then doesn't look surprising at all. Having listed what's wrong (with their product focus, company culture etc), and where they plan to head, its' almost like the book informs the reader where puck is going to be (from Satya's POV). It's funny that 15 years back I was so anti MS and pro Google and now I think it's the other…

“It's funny that 15 years back I was so anti MS and pro Google and now I think it's the other way!” Stay skeptical of all of them. No need to be fan of one of the big techs. In the end they are all greedy organizations that want to dominate. None of them should be trusted.

Post by walterbell » Thu, May 02, 2019, 5:45 PM UTC

oneplane wrote: post #30

thrower123 wrote: post #17

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Possible, but from the inside as a Microsoft Partner, it feels like most of the world is just starting to move to the cloud, and when they do, they go Azure, because they are already dependent on Exchange.

Odd, I'm seeing more and more people trying to find ways to escape Exchange, and not having it as a driver towards anything. Nobody likes being driven by artificial lock-ins.