It's true. It's always hard to figure out exactly how much credit the CEO should get for successes or failures of the company, but since Nadella became CEO Microsoft made a lot of good decisions that really set them up for the future. Office365 is terrific. Azure is cementing itself as the default cloud for enterprises and a solid 2nd or 3rd option outside of the enterprise. Windows 10 is great.
Microsoft, currently the most valuable company, is having a Nadellaissance
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Re: Microsoft, currently the most valuable company, is having a Nadellaissance
#52It’s unfortunate to see Microsoft (along with Adobe, etc) expanding into Ads. If nothing else, they could really differentiate and join forces with Apple from privacy standpoint to oppose Google, Amazon and Facebook. Instead, “Intellisense with AI now available on VS Code” is Microsoft’s nice way of saying “We harvest the shit out of your data”. Ah, like a true Ad company. Don’t get me started on Windows 10 telemetry…
> “Intellisense with AI now available on VS Code” is Microsoft’s nice way of saying “We harvest the shit out of your data”. What? The IntelliCode description says that "Contextual recommendations are based on practices developed in thousands of high quality, open-source projects on GitHub each with high star ratings.". I'm not clear on how you think Microsoft will harvest data from doing this - much less how it is re…
Fuzzy logic, hamming scoring, and markov chains suddenly became "AI" now...
They don't need your telemetry for that
Re: Microsoft, currently the most valuable company, is having a Nadellaissance
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If people don't pay for software maintenance, e.g. Windows 10 updates, what do you do? Ads, harvest data... Windows (likely) always could offer better privacy for a fee. You can buy a Windows computer incl. services at a price point you can only dream of Apple hardware. Facebook/Inst/Wapp and Google show that the majority of people go with 'Geiz ist geil' (cheap is cool), privacy be damned. Awareness doesn't necessar…
Linux seems to be doing just fine keeping software maintained without ads or harvesting data. This mindset is toxic and needs to die.
Oh yes! They're taking the desktop by storm!
Re: Microsoft, currently the most valuable company, is having a Nadellaissance
#54Nadellaissance doesn't work at all and its breaking my soul, fuck off pithy headlines. That said, the board has done well picking leadership, Satya's driven a lot of amazing cultural change, and business too.
> Nadellaissance doesn't work at all and its breaking my soul, fuck off pithy headlines.
Care to explain? Do you work there? "doesn't work at all" meaning he's lazy?
Re: Microsoft, currently the most valuable company, is having a Nadellaissance
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In what way was MS sinking under Ballmer? Maybe they were not exciting but they were super profitable every year. I think it's more about better PR. Not everything is golden at MS now either. I am working on creating a platform for our medical software on Windows 10 and it really makes me want to switch to Linux or iOS. Windows is a big mess of old and new code and attempts of sandboxing like iOS but only half-hearte…
Windows always been a pain to develop for. And every Windows version redundantly includes "a new api for everything" alongside all the horrible legacy stuff. But Microsoft's recent efforts on Linux & macOS, i.e. VSCode, has been surprisingly good. They do a lot of things, I think Typescript is run by MS as well. So that's something that positively changed under Nadella.
I believe this is because MS wants to move away from being an OS provider to being a service provider. If a service runs on Linux they won't care as long as its generating revenue for them. Whether this is Nadella's push or obvious from MS's accountants is hard to say.
Re: Microsoft, currently the most valuable company, is having a Nadellaissance
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
If people don't pay for software maintenance, e.g. Windows 10 updates, what do you do? Ads, harvest data... Windows (likely) always could offer better privacy for a fee. You can buy a Windows computer incl. services at a price point you can only dream of Apple hardware. Facebook/Inst/Wapp and Google show that the majority of people go with 'Geiz ist geil' (cheap is cool), privacy be damned. Awareness doesn't necessar…
Linux seems to be doing just fine keeping software maintained without ads or harvesting data. This mindset is toxic and needs to die.
Fine among our crowd but how many non technical people are using Linux?
Re: Microsoft, currently the most valuable company, is having a Nadellaissance
#57The subscription model is great/easy, but from the tax side I am leaning more towards the purchase model over AWS. I recently saw the Delta Airlines paid no Federal Taxes last year because of accelerated depreciation costs. With AWS, there is no accelerated depreciated, just current expenses. Anywho, I'm off to a new data center ground-breaking ceremony.
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Possible, but from the inside as a Microsoft Partner, it feels like most of the world is just starting to move to the cloud, and when they do, they go Azure, because they are already dependent on Exchange.
If you're already locked into msft, then yeah msft makes sense. But one thing people often forget is that AWS is cheaper than everyone else. This matters to most companies. Also, Azure is a pretty miserable dev experience for many of their services. Many of AWS smaller services aren't great, but better from what I've used/general sentiment.
haha look at you two go
Re: Microsoft, currently the most valuable company, is having a Nadellaissance
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If you're already locked into msft, then yeah msft makes sense. But one thing people often forget is that AWS is cheaper than everyone else. This matters to most companies. Also, Azure is a pretty miserable dev experience for many of their services. Many of AWS smaller services aren't great, but better from what I've used/general sentiment.
> AWS is cheaper than everyone else. Can you provide a source for this please? I recently priced out AWS, Azure, and GCP for GPU workloads. I found that AWS and Azure were approximately on par, whereas GCP was significantly cheaper: AWS p3.8xlarge: $12.24/hr [1] Azure NC24 v3: $12.24/hr [2] GCP n1-highmem-32: $8.311/hour [3] [1] https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/p3/ [2] https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/prici…
That's just the single box though. What about the storage and managed services?
Re: Microsoft, currently the most valuable company, is having a Nadellaissance
#60It’s unfortunate to see Microsoft (along with Adobe, etc) expanding into Ads. If nothing else, they could really differentiate and join forces with Apple from privacy standpoint to oppose Google, Amazon and Facebook. Instead, “Intellisense with AI now available on VS Code” is Microsoft’s nice way of saying “We harvest the shit out of your data”. Ah, like a true Ad company. Don’t get me started on Windows 10 telemetry…
Remember MS was first to jump on the NSA PRISM slide.
While they’ve made some better decisions recently, this one has shown no signs of change. It’s why I still relegate anything MS to VMs.