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L.A.’s Elite on Edge as Prosecutors Pursue More Parents in Admissions Scandal

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2 years in jail for this is absurd. A week would be more than enough.

Please familiarize yourself with minimum sentencing guidelines for drug possession. These parents, by preventing other students from being able to get an education they earned, are causing far more harm.

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#13

They're not that elite if they're gonna get ensnared in this one. If you're one of the elite you just donate a building, which is a completely legal way to get your kids into a school of your choice.

Why is that legal?

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What a great way to polarize more people in this political environment if some of these parents are let off the hook.

People have been giving buildings and endowments for hundreds of years. It is not illegal to give buildings and money for the endowments. What these folks did was run a scam on the university.

I completely agree with you. I’m just commenting on the fact that these people should not be let off the hook just because they donate a building.

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They're not that elite if they're gonna get ensnared in this one. If you're one of the elite you just donate a building, which is a completely legal way to get your kids into a school of your choice.

$500,000 isn't going to get you much of a building. These folks just didn't want to fork out the real dough even though some of them had the means.

It might of made a nice check for one of those endowments, scholarship funds, or private (as in non-public) grants that make university administrators quite happy.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People have been giving buildings and endowments for hundreds of years. It is not illegal to give buildings and money for the endowments. What these folks did was run a scam on the university.

I completely agree with you. I’m just commenting on the fact that these people should not be let off the hook just because they donate a building.

There is no hook or wrong doing in giving a building. It benefits a lot of people. These folks actually did something illegal. Grouping people who actually gave to the university with people who paid a scam artist is wrong.

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post #13

They're not that elite if they're gonna get ensnared in this one. If you're one of the elite you just donate a building, which is a completely legal way to get your kids into a school of your choice.

Why is that legal?

What law would it break?

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post #13

They're not that elite if they're gonna get ensnared in this one. If you're one of the elite you just donate a building, which is a completely legal way to get your kids into a school of your choice.

Why is that legal?

Why not? A private university has no obligation to run its admissions program they way you think it should.

The reason there is a crime here is because the universities were the victims of fraud, not because the law mandates fairness in admissions.

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They're not that elite if they're gonna get ensnared in this one. If you're one of the elite you just donate a building, which is a completely legal way to get your kids into a school of your choice.

At least donating a building gives value to the other attending students that far outweighs the cost of their child going

I reject this - if we want admission in the US to be entirely wealth based and Oligarchic we should just buy that concept whole-hog. Many of us (I hope?) believe that scholarships that allow smart people coming from bad backgrounds to succeed are worth their cost[1] so clearly the ability to make use of your education is part of our general societal motivation to give someone one.

[1] There are lots of scholarships, grants and other things out there, many go to people who don't need them and there are issues with the system both on that end and with regards to the cost for an education - please ignore those and just focus on the concept of financial aide to an intelligent driven student who genuinely needs it to pay fair value to get an education in terms of reimbursing all expenses given to give this student an education and nothing else.

Re: L.A.’s Elite on Edge as Prosecutors Pursue More Parents in Admissions Scandal

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post #12

2 years in jail for this is absurd. A week would be more than enough.

Please familiarize yourself with minimum sentencing guidelines for drug possession. These parents, by preventing other students from being able to get an education they earned, are causing far more harm.

Perhaps those sentences are equally or more absurd?
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