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System76 News: Coreboot and Linux Advances

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Re: System76 News: Coreboot and Linux Advances

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Do people actually buy laptop/desktop from system76? I tried to price a laptop from them before and it was quite expensive compare to main stream vendors like Dell. Its cheaper just buy a OEM laptop and slap ubuntu on it.

I bought one last fall, a laptop with a 1070 GPU - I love it.

It is large and heavy so I still use my MacBook when traveling.

Re: System76 News: Coreboot and Linux Advances

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Do people actually buy laptop/desktop from system76? I tried to price a laptop from them before and it was quite expensive compare to main stream vendors like Dell. Its cheaper just buy a OEM laptop and slap ubuntu on it.

I purchased one about 2 years ago. I am generally happy with purchase, but certainly don't feel like I saved any money. I did need to reinstall the operating system (and have since switched to Manjaro). The fan is loud and battery is lousy, but the hardware has not deteriorated other than the connection to the monitor needed tightening. They also don't void the warranty if you open up the machine and tinker, which was a bonus because I wanted to install my own second SSD. I also really like the look and the keyboard is excellent. Plus a good number of ports including usb-c and Ethernet which wasn't as common two years ago.

Re: System76 News: Coreboot and Linux Advances

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I admire the efforts to get coreboot support, and love their open hardware initiatives, but I don't understand why everyone has NIH syndrome. There was no need for them to create their own distro. That is a huge expense just to reinvent a wheel that has already been reinvented ten thousand times. And in the end most of their users will probably just load up the one they use already.

Have you used it, out of interest? It's very slick, at the very least..

Re: System76 News: Coreboot and Linux Advances

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This is cool and all, but I can't help but cringe when I see a corporate entity using Tumblr for official communication.

They probably never migrated when the Tumblr company blog trend ended

I didn't realize this was ever a trend. I'm glad it died.

Re: System76 News: Coreboot and Linux Advances

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Not sure about the support. Intel employees regularly submit to coreboot repo. I know at least for the Atom based designs that I've been involved in Intel provides reference designs using coreboot and supports it.

AMD is a sponsor of coreboot according to https://www.coreboot.org/Sponsors Personally, I think the fundamental issue relates to IP. If the hardware design is made transparent by amazing and freely available documentation you invite infringement claims, particularly from IP trolls. (Threats from competitors are probably more existential, though, at least for large companies.) Often time companies will say that their…

I think it's that DRM doesn't work if they don't have a place that the user doesn't own, combined with that core is also used for system init because it's in the right place and you already want similar crypto you'd need for DRM for secure boot.

There's not really any interesting IP in those cores from what we've seen.

Re: System76 News: Coreboot and Linux Advances

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I admire the efforts to get coreboot support, and love their open hardware initiatives, but I don't understand why everyone has NIH syndrome. There was no need for them to create their own distro. That is a huge expense just to reinvent a wheel that has already been reinvented ten thousand times. And in the end most of their users will probably just load up the one they use already.

> but I don't understand why everyone has NIH syndrome. Many free/open-source advocates have been complaining about NIH syndrome for years and years and years... to no avail. Consider, for example, the situation with window managers and desktop environments. Off the top of my head, we have Gnome, KDE, Unity, XFCE, Openbox, dwm, Gala, KWin, Fluxbox, Enlightenment, JWM, and Ratpoison -- to name only 12 of the remarkabl…

I am often reminded that there are multiple personality types showing up in many things, such as software.

To my personality type, I would wonder why you wouldn't want a replaceable window manager, and I consider a reaction like yours to be the product of some kind of odd software design authoritarianism.

But we're not both right or both wrong, this is just a point where we differ.

PS: a bunch of those desktop environments you cite are not actually window managers.

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