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UK Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson Sacked over Huawei Leak

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Re: UK Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson Sacked over Huawei Leak

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The UK has a Crown Prosecution Service which is a public service responsible for bringing charges against people. It’s not up to HMG.

According to wikipedia Attorney General is responsible for the CPS, who answers to the Ministry of Justice...which is a Government department.

Justice Department answers to Trump. Doesn't mean he can tell them to just go arrest someone. No matter how many times he tries.

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I think this article is disingenuous. It's telnet on a nonstandard port with hardcoded credentials, that was added back in after being removed when it was spotted in previous security testing. Edit: this according to one of the sources in the Bloomberg article, who claims to have read internal Vodaphone documents https://twitter.com/raistolo/status/1123283199348621312

I won't deny it's bad, but it's more of a smoking crater than a smoking gun. A genuine vulnerability existed, and it wasn't swiftly remove (apparently due to it being crucial to their manufacturing operations). Notwithstanding the potential for this to be an underhandedly engineered backdoor, there doesn't seem to be any evidence of it being more than an oversight similar to others common in the industry.

In other words, they have plausible deniability because of how the backdoor was designed.

Re: UK Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson Sacked over Huawei Leak

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All of Thatcher-In-The-Rye's tenure has been an extended 'Yes Minister' episode. Though I think the writers would never have gone quite as far as Boris 'Fuck Business' Johnson. Who may very well become our next PM.

I had to google Thatcher in the Rye :) Thanks for the laugh. That said I have hope. The more clowns in power, the more pressure on real leaders to step up. This is a phase where the media and social media have allowed things to happen that no one expected. But we learn from that and things change. For the better. They always do. Or we'd still have a King running things.

>Or we'd still have a King running things.

I think you would be surprised how many people in the UK would support that. I have run into a fair amount of very old-school monarchists who fully believe that Liz should seize power in a coup. They also tend to think that we should retake the British Empire and I find myself having to politely explain that these days the rest of the world is slightly better armed than when we first had a go.

Re: UK Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson Sacked over Huawei Leak

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Relevant discussion a day ago: Vodafone Found Hidden Backdoors in Huawei Equipment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19786102

Huawei's reputation has never been completely stellar, but I'm getting more and more skeptical of these "reports" and the motivation behind them. Rehashed old news fromm 2012 about a telnet port? Really? As always, rehashed old news is great for clicks when it's the correct boogeyman.

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In general, this is one of the news threads that I persistently don't understand. There is too much information missing. Why are European countries so keen on allowing Huawei to build some critical infrastructure? Do they face threats from China? If so, how are these made? And then there is the other side of the coin, that the US allegations look credible overall, but it is also known that the NSA and GCHQ built spyi…

It's geopolitics. In short, when there is only a choice between US and Chinese manufacturers, whichever doesn't matter because they're both considered equally hostile. Chinese is cheaper though.

Intel is joining the 5G infrastructure game.

https://newsroom.intel.com/news-releases/intel-modem-stateme...

Re: UK Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson Sacked over Huawei Leak

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I'd love to know how he was caught. Not enough security on his phone - or old school interviews and sources?

Honestly leaks are such a common part of the current UK government he is probably just suprised that THIS TIME people are taking it seriously.

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According to wikipedia Attorney General is responsible for the CPS, who answers to the Ministry of Justice...which is a Government department.

Justice Department answers to Trump. Doesn't mean he can tell them to just go arrest someone. No matter how many times he tries.

The US is not the UK

Re: UK Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson Sacked over Huawei Leak

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According to wikipedia Attorney General is responsible for the CPS, who answers to the Ministry of Justice...which is a Government department.

An AG interfering with or blocking the CPS from bringing a prosecution would be a _big_ deal.

That's one way to look at it, sure. But technically it is up to the Government though?

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It's geopolitics. In short, when there is only a choice between US and Chinese manufacturers, whichever doesn't matter because they're both considered equally hostile. Chinese is cheaper though.

There is a third option... the EU countries develop its own technology.

Which would be quite expensive
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