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Examining Carlos Ghosn and Japan's System of 'Hostage Justice'

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Who is the writer and what is his angle here? It looks like this is his only contribution to this outlet. A google search on his name turns up nothing.

Outside Board Director, Former Executive Officer at US/Japan Multinationals, Retired Int'l Business Attorney.

you can find him on linkedin.

https://www.linkedin.com/today/author/eneiheisel

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I find it interesting how Japan and Germany both have a constitution that was essentially written by Americans after the second world war. But there is a big difference in civil liberties between these countries. E.G. If the police charge you in Japan, there is very little chance not being sentenced to something (or taken hostage). Compared to Germany where you would have a much fairer trial.

Aside, not relevant to the article discussed here. constitution that was essentially written by Americans I cannot speak about Japan, but that's historically false for Germany. If you look at the list of participants in the main events that drafted the West German constitution such as the Rittersturz-Konferenz [1] and the Verfassungskonvent auf Herrenchiemsee [2], then you'll see that all participants are German. Nat…

Specifically, the German Constitution was drafted by parties associated with the Weimar coalition, and very much reflects the lessons learned from the fall of the Weimar Republic.

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Rioting, even with a permit to protest, is illegal

They didn't riot, they were attacked and defended themselves. Look at any video from the event.

You're saying the people that participated in the Unite the Right rally, who conspired to commit violence and escalate an already violent event and who were members of what is essentially a terrorist group were just defending themselves?

No, they weren't attacked. They were the aggressors. They have a history of being aggressors. They openly admit to being violent and aggressive.

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Ghosn's handling by the Japanese is utterly despicable. No habeas corpus ... no due process.

Ghosn is credited with a stunning corporate turnaround and creating billions of dollars of value for a Japanese company and the Japanese people. I am certain foreign corporations who do business in Japan are thinking long and hard about the implications and potential risks of operating there.

To be clear - I am not saying Ghosn is innocent. He may very well have created special corporate structures to siphon off cash - and if he did, he certainly didn't do it alone. I think he regretted not taking the helm of GM where he saw US top execs easily earning $20, $30mm a year with no complaints from the public...

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They didn't riot, they were attacked and defended themselves. Look at any video from the event.

You're saying the people that participated in the Unite the Right rally, who conspired to commit violence and escalate an already violent event and who were members of what is essentially a terrorist group were just defending themselves? No, they weren't attacked. They were the aggressors. They have a history of being aggressors. They openly admit to being violent and aggressive.

Yes, that's what I'm saying. The people with the permit to demonstrate were attacked and defended themselves, and are being railroaded by the justice system. It's not illegal to be proud of defending your right to free speech with self defense.

Meanwhile the people who show up with weapons and masks, and with no permit and incite the violence don't even get arrested.

It even happened a few days ago at a Trump rally. A reporter got harassed and attacked, and nothing will happen to the perpetrators - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j693_xvdGTI

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Aside, not relevant to the article discussed here. constitution that was essentially written by Americans I cannot speak about Japan, but that's historically false for Germany. If you look at the list of participants in the main events that drafted the West German constitution such as the Rittersturz-Konferenz [1] and the Verfassungskonvent auf Herrenchiemsee [2], then you'll see that all participants are German. Nat…

My constitutional knowledge on the German constitution is a bit rusty, but I guess you hit the nail on the head when you say: 'Naturally, the allies had to agree'. The Allies were the ones that required these conferences and approved of the Germans that went there. I guess the English and the French had some say, but really the big dog of the allies was the US. So I stand by my statement.

No, they did not; the conferences were attended by the governments of the German states, who had passed through the de-Nazification filter but were otherwise selected by purely German political processes.

When it came to the content of the constitution, the Allies' conditions were clear and pretty general - it had to be democratic, and it had to be federal. (The latter was distinguished from the Weimar constitution only in that the Allies insisted on general size parity between states.) Plus complying with occupation policy on control of heavy industry. See https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurter_Dokumente

The main principles of the constitution itself were assembled by German elected governments of the states (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verfassungskonvent_auf_Herrenc...), and were very much direct responses to the process of the Nazi takeover in 1933.

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My unpopular opinion: Questioning someone longer than they want to provide answers, when that same person is unable to leave the interview is a form of torture -- change my mind.

Your request is, at its heart, a question about the definition of the word "torture". The pedestrian definition of "torture" as per the Merriam-Webster dictionary is: 1: the infliction of intense pain (as from burning, crushing, or wounding) to punish, coerce, or afford sadistic pleasure 2: a) something that causes agony or pain; b) anguish of body or mind 3: distortion or overrefinement of a meaning or an argument I…

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