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Re: Golden: Mapping human knowledge

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> Today, we have a great opportunity to use new technologies to solve the problems: […] real identity […] > Join Golden > First Name Last Name Yeah, no. A “real names” policy is a really terrible idea , for reasons outlined here: https://geekfeminism.wikia.org/wiki/Who_is_harmed_by_a_%22Re...

"Really terrible" is a bit harsh imo but your comment is very insightful.

Perhaps there is a middle ground? Some kind of novel solution that accounts for data coming from "real names" vs pseudonym differently?

Re: Golden: Mapping human knowledge

#43
post #22

> The arbitrary threshold of what is notable and what is not doesn't cut it in the Knowledge Age. There are currently 5.8 million English language articles in Wikipedia, and Google had 1 billion objects (200x Wikipedia's size) in its Knowledge Graph when it launched in 2015. We estimate internally that there are 1000x the entities to cover than what Wikipedia has today. It’s an exciting challenge! This is a very weir…

Jude from Golden here. Unfortunately, there are many more topics other than US companies being removed eg right now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soda_Popinski is up for removal. This notability issue spans almost all entity types. Additionally, many topics just simply don't make it onto there soon enough https://golden.com/wiki/Morphogenetic_Engineering Another example, Lisk was removed https://golden.com/wiki/Lisk…

As far as I see for issue like the morphogenetic engineering page you linked, the notability issue is to prevent people from gaming SEO or making their personal company/theory/whatever from being listed. Which is to say, maybe it's not a good idea for anybody to be able to list their business, thesis, or book (for commercial or discovery purposes) alongside actually notable topics. It seems ripe for marketing or other gaming.

Re: Golden: Mapping human knowledge

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post #22

> The arbitrary threshold of what is notable and what is not doesn't cut it in the Knowledge Age. There are currently 5.8 million English language articles in Wikipedia, and Google had 1 billion objects (200x Wikipedia's size) in its Knowledge Graph when it launched in 2015. We estimate internally that there are 1000x the entities to cover than what Wikipedia has today. It’s an exciting challenge! This is a very weir…

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Re: Golden: Mapping human knowledge

#47
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jude from Golden here. We won't do the reg wall - hold me to it :>. We want the information to be open and EASY to access, thus no reg screen. CC4.0

How about API access and textual dumps for the other kinds of analysis?

Thomas here, programmer at Golden. We don't have any specific plans to announce at the moment, but we've been thinking about how best to provide API access, including looking into GraphQL. Let me know if you have any specific needs or ideas! thomas@golden.com

Re: Golden: Mapping human knowledge

#48
One reason why I like contributing to Wikipedia is because it feels like I'm contributing to the knowledge-base for all of humanity. Why should I spend my time working on a VC-funded version instead of at a non-profit? VC companies go bust all the time. I would have little share in the governance. Plus, it seems like you all are using public labor for private profit.

That all said, more knowledge is better than less. Good work on creating this.

Re: Golden: Mapping human knowledge

#49
post #31
post #27

> Today, we have a great opportunity to use new technologies to solve the problems: […] real identity […] > Join Golden > First Name Last Name Yeah, no. A “real names” policy is a really terrible idea , for reasons outlined here: https://geekfeminism.wikia.org/wiki/Who_is_harmed_by_a_%22Re...

I'd like to see a breakdown of the benefits next to the costs. As it stands, the article you link here is a judgement seeking non-anecdotal data.

What are the benefits of a real name policy?

It's easy to create bot accounts that have believable names, and a whatever vetting process put in place may just be a false sense of security that you're interacting with who they say they are.

It certainly doesn't make anyone less of an jerk. Plenty of racists sexists etc on facebook arguing with everyone else in the world.

How does is prevent impersonating someone not on the platform? Twitter is notoriously bad at this... you can just call yourself whatever you want as long as your target isn't a user of the platform and takes notice...

Re: Golden: Mapping human knowledge

#50
While noble in appearance (that's what you're going for with the Golden name?), I'm skeptical of a VC-backed company going after Wikipedia, which is, IMO one of the treasures of the internet.

Without a VERY transparent and provable business model, I would never support this, as it seems like exactly the wrong direction to take "the internet". Especially since from the CEO's language, it seems to be competing directly with Wikipedia, rather than trying to work with them.

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