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Re: Fedora 30

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CentOS 8 is not fresh enough for you?

Does it exist yet?

No. But at least RHEL 8 (based on Fedora 28) has been available as a beta release for a while now (since 25th November 2018), so it shouldn't be too long.. I'd speculate another 4-6 months and we'll have it.

Re: Fedora 30

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Thoughts on Fedora vs Arch? I've been using Arch on my Thinkpad for a while now, no major complaints, but forgetting to mount my boot before a `sudo pacman -Syu` (full system upgrade) always gets me. P.S. I know that this is a non-issue...a simple alias would prevent future woes.

Arch is not quite a real-world-usable system IMHO, it breaks way too easily if you're not constantly updating it, which means that at some point you'll have to reinstall from scratch. Debian Testing/Unstable just tends to work better (for a rolling distro) in my view.

The Arch vs. Fedora comparison is not very sensible given how different the update models are... if you're ok with Fedora's update schedule it can be a fine choice.

Re: Fedora 30

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Fedora and the Dell XPS laptop are the current best of breed developer machines. Top notch keyboards, brilliant OS and a futuristic architecture (Silverblue - all containers all the way down). My compan has a couple hundred cheap AMD ryzen laptops with Fedora giving macbook pros a run for their money! I spend about 500$ on them (which includes a SSD). Its the world class desktop OS for the developing world!

I also would be intested in finding out which laptop that would be - I am looking for a nice Fedora machine.

Re: Fedora 30

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I'm on a Macbook Pro and would love to try this out. Aside from installing on bare metal, would VirtualBox be the second best option?

Re: Fedora 30

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If the 6-month release cycle is too frequent for you as a desktop user, consider using RHEL/Centos. In general Red Hat's distros are top-notch and easier to reason about than other distros.

What? The software in CentOS' official repositories is horribly outdated (aka 'stable', which is why it runs on many servers). Why should a desktop system run CentOS? I'd rather recommend Ubuntu or one of its descendants. They also have LTS versions, if stability is a concern, but are not as outdated as CentOS.

Why don't you use SCL if the official repos are outdated?

Re: Fedora 30

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I'd love to share your enthusiasm but until we get macOS-level consistent touchpad gestures, rock-solid stability, instant wake from suspend without draining battery consistently, great GPU drivers, ...(I can go on), it is difficult to proclaim that. I love developing on Linux too, and I really want it to be the best, but it's just not there yet.

Mac OS supports exactly one line of hardware. So let's pick exactly one line of Hardware to run Linux so it's a fair comparison. I nominate either thinkpads or Dell XPS. Now then, in a fair comparison... > consistent touchpad gestures, GNOME has this. > rock-solid stability, Yep. > instant wake from suspend without draining battery consistently, Has that even been a problem this decade? > great GPU drivers I defy you…

NVidia Linux is a battery destroying monstrosity. My laptop fans go crazy with nVidia driver, making the laptop unusable. Using no driver gives a pleasant audiable experience (no HW acceleration). Heck, even Haiku with raw framebuffer driver runs more pleasantly than Linux with nVidia driver.

Re: Fedora 30

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Can someone say if the font rendering is improved compared to previous releases? This might sound like nitpicking but it's the thing that kept me from switching from Ubuntu, which generally has superb font rendering.

What was the last version you used?

It's enormously improved over, say, Fedora 23. If you had issues with a newer version like, say, 28, I don't know. I don't personally have an issue with it.

Re: Fedora 30

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Too bad they didn't get Sway 1.0 package in time for Fedora 30. That's the issue with non rolling releases, you miss the train and now we have to wait months. I also tried out Silverblue, but it was super unpolished, not a lot of documentation, and there's rpms I couldn't get installed that I needed for work. Fedora is still my favorite Linux distro for just getting things done. Red Hat is a focal point for kernel an…

>Too bad they didn't get Sway 1.0 package in time for Fedora 30. That's the issue with non rolling releases, you miss the train and now we have to wait months.

Fedora has a pretty loose upgrade policy with non-critical packages. It may well get updated, and if not, they may provide it via modularity. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1672268#c14

Re: Fedora 30

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This is good distro for developers by developers. I wouldn't suggest it for everyday users though. There are too many beta quality bugs since it uses really bleeding edge releases.

I agree, but if you want to develop .Net or Swift, the available rpm's seem to originate downstream and lag the releases for ubuntu significantly. The releases of .Net core, the Swift toolchain, and Kitura, the IBM open source Swift web framework (even though IBM owns Red Hat), all come out targeting ubuntu. Because the different linux distros have significantly older or newer versions of some .so and .h files, releasing for all the major flavors is harder than it should be, and ubuntu seems to come first.

Re: Fedora 30

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Not to trn this thread into an argument about formats but snap isn't a proprietary format at all. It's a squashfs file with some metadata. ]and congratulations to Fedora!]

My problem with it is that there's no concept of a Snap repository, like Flatpak. Snap is intrinsically tied to Canonical's Snap store.

Be quite, Snap is vendor-locked.
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