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Re: Fedora 30

#51

Post by harrygeez »

sandGorgon wrote: post #42

Fedora and the Dell XPS laptop are the current best of breed developer machines. Top notch keyboards, brilliant OS and a futuristic architecture (Silverblue - all containers all the way down). My compan has a couple hundred cheap AMD ryzen laptops with Fedora giving macbook pros a run for their money! I spend about 500$ on them (which includes a SSD). Its the world class desktop OS for the developing world!

I'd love to share your enthusiasm but until we get macOS-level consistent touchpad gestures, rock-solid stability, instant wake from suspend without draining battery consistently, great GPU drivers, ...(I can go on), it is difficult to proclaim that.

I love developing on Linux too, and I really want it to be the best, but it's just not there yet.

Re: Fedora 30

#52

Post by 1337shadow »

_zachs wrote: post #49

Thoughts on Fedora vs Arch? I've been using Arch on my Thinkpad for a while now, no major complaints, but forgetting to mount my boot before a `sudo pacman -Syu` (full system upgrade) always gets me. P.S. I know that this is a non-issue...a simple alias would prevent future woes.

Why not automount /boot ? The default linux kernel package in Arch exposes /proc/config.gz so I'm curious why would one not make /boot automount.

Re: Fedora 30

#54

Post by fnux »

ilovecaching wrote: post #20

Too bad they didn't get Sway 1.0 package in time for Fedora 30. That's the issue with non rolling releases, you miss the train and now we have to wait months. I also tried out Silverblue, but it was super unpolished, not a lot of documentation, and there's rpms I couldn't get installed that I needed for work. Fedora is still my favorite Linux distro for just getting things done. Red Hat is a focal point for kernel an…

You can use the following COPR repository from the Sway SIG in the meantime: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/g/sway-sig/sway-desk...

Re: Fedora 30

#55

Post by IOT_Apprentice »

sandGorgon wrote: post #42

Fedora and the Dell XPS laptop are the current best of breed developer machines. Top notch keyboards, brilliant OS and a futuristic architecture (Silverblue - all containers all the way down). My compan has a couple hundred cheap AMD ryzen laptops with Fedora giving macbook pros a run for their money! I spend about 500$ on them (which includes a SSD). Its the world class desktop OS for the developing world!

So what manufacturer/model is this cheap Ryzen laptop that costs $500 with an SSD? and how much RAM? That does not sound like a Dell XPS.

Re: Fedora 30

#56

Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

harrygeez wrote: post #51
sandGorgon wrote: post #42

Fedora and the Dell XPS laptop are the current best of breed developer machines. Top notch keyboards, brilliant OS and a futuristic architecture (Silverblue - all containers all the way down). My compan has a couple hundred cheap AMD ryzen laptops with Fedora giving macbook pros a run for their money! I spend about 500$ on them (which includes a SSD). Its the world class desktop OS for the developing world!

I'd love to share your enthusiasm but until we get macOS-level consistent touchpad gestures, rock-solid stability, instant wake from suspend without draining battery consistently, great GPU drivers, ...(I can go on), it is difficult to proclaim that. I love developing on Linux too, and I really want it to be the best, but it's just not there yet.

Mac OS supports exactly one line of hardware. So let's pick exactly one line of Hardware to run Linux so it's a fair comparison. I nominate either thinkpads or Dell XPS. Now then, in a fair comparison...

> consistent touchpad gestures,

GNOME has this.

> rock-solid stability,

Yep.

> instant wake from suspend without draining battery consistently,

Has that even been a problem this decade?

> great GPU drivers

I defy you to claim that great GPU drivers exist on any operating system, but as long as you're not using Nvidia Linux is perfectly good.

Re: Fedora 30

#57

Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #16

The Fedora 30 image has been available on builds.sr.ht for CI for several weeks now :) you can use it as fedora/latest and fedora/30. https://man.sr.ht/builds.sr.ht/compatibility.md#fedora

... I'm in love. When did sr.ht get this good?

Re: Fedora 30

#58

Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

_zachs wrote: post #49

Thoughts on Fedora vs Arch? I've been using Arch on my Thinkpad for a while now, no major complaints, but forgetting to mount my boot before a `sudo pacman -Syu` (full system upgrade) always gets me. P.S. I know that this is a non-issue...a simple alias would prevent future woes.

> Thoughts on Fedora vs Arch?

Both perfectly good systems. Both are reasonably up-to-date though Arch is more cutting edge, and Fedora has releases rather than rolling release. Fedora has a real company backing it at some level. Arch probably has the greatest package availability of any operating system (at all, if we allow the AUR).

> but forgetting to mount my boot

...so stick it in fstab? Using -o bind if need be.

Re: Fedora 30

#59

Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #57
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #16

The Fedora 30 image has been available on builds.sr.ht for CI for several weeks now :) you can use it as fedora/latest and fedora/30. https://man.sr.ht/builds.sr.ht/compatibility.md#fedora

... I'm in love. When did sr.ht get this good?

It always has been ;)

Re: Fedora 30

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

eu wrote: post #53

I guest it’s time to upgrade to Fedora 29 now.. :)

I get why you're getting downvoted, but staying one release behind a certainly a way to avoid bugs, and if you're on 28 then this is definitely a good reason to bump up to 29.
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