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Calling a real estate robocaller back

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Re: Calling a real estate robocaller back

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I've had people wanting to "buy" some property you have. Once they get you to agree to sell, then they ask if you can self-finance the sale (i.e., you become the bank and "sell" for nothing and they give you a monthly mortgage payment.) Sounds OK in theory, but you'd need a lot of paperwork/legal to vet the whole deal and you have no idea if the person can even pay until you spend even more on credit checks, etc. And…

>Sounds OK in theory

Sounds terrible in theory!

Re: Calling a real estate robocaller back

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Forgive me for being out of the loop here, but why is it so hard to make this business unprofitable and easily trackable? For any kind of contracted relations as mentioned in the article (automatic call centers etc), the law enforcement can get a trace. For off-the-shelf temporary SIM cards, make them rate limited and block them when a complaint is filed. Is there something I'm missing here? Given the numbers, this s…

The patlive.com service does seem to be the obvious place to track down who their lawbreaking client is. It's a US company, which was probably a mistake. I assume "Will" could have contracted with a service outside the US. On the plus side, patlive.com charges $1/minute as their cheapest plan. Robodialing them back, with a sufficiently clever script, would be costly for "Will".

I looked at PatLive's FAQ and there's no contract required. You pay by Visa, MC, or AMEX. If you can use a reloadable card then they probably don't know who you are.

Re: Calling a real estate robocaller back

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I want a phone service that automatically charges the caller a small amount ($1-$2). I can waive the charger for known numbers. Each time an unknown caller calls, I get an SMS right after the call to waive the charge for this and all subsequent calls or to proceed with the charge.

Re: Calling a real estate robocaller back

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Why are Robocalls so common in the US, but not in other countries?

The U.S. has more rich suckers to prey on.

At first glance this comment might seem shallow, but I think we can unpack it a bit.

1. It’s probably correct? The US is a very large single market

2. From some quarters the US does come across as being fairly laissez-faire

3. The scale of predatory economic activity in an otherwise highly developed economy is(?) unmatched

4. Penalties seem to be a cost of business rather than genuine attempts at deterrent

5. The general appearance of a lack of accountability

But, I’m just looking on from afar, and I’m sure the media advances the hyperbole.

Re: Calling a real estate robocaller back

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Google does on my phone. Sometimes it will ask me after a call if it was spam. Works surprisingly well considering it is Google in 2019, but now that I think of it I can see a number of ways they'll mess up this as well ;-)

I use Google's Call Screen service. It answers the call and tells the caller to state their name and reason for calling. The response shows up on my screen as text and I can decide to pick up at any time. 99% of the time, the call just disconnects. I really wish Google would let me set my phone to ring only for numbers in my address book and give everybody else a busy signal.

On android, you can go to settings of the caller app, and enable "filter spam calls". Not exactly the same thing but still... You might have some trouble if you are a fi user.

Re: Calling a real estate robocaller back

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I want a phone service that automatically charges the caller a small amount ($1-$2). I can waive the charger for known numbers. Each time an unknown caller calls, I get an SMS right after the call to waive the charge for this and all subsequent calls or to proceed with the charge.

And how would you expect to collect on any of that?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Google's Call Screen service. It answers the call and tells the caller to state their name and reason for calling. The response shows up on my screen as text and I can decide to pick up at any time. 99% of the time, the call just disconnects. I really wish Google would let me set my phone to ring only for numbers in my address book and give everybody else a busy signal.

On android, you can go to settings of the caller app, and enable "filter spam calls". Not exactly the same thing but still... You might have some trouble if you are a fi user.

I am a fi user.

The problem with settings like that is it still lets the call go to voicemail and I don't want to deal dozens of 4 second messages every week.

Re: Calling a real estate robocaller back

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I want a phone service that automatically charges the caller a small amount ($1-$2). I can waive the charger for known numbers. Each time an unknown caller calls, I get an SMS right after the call to waive the charge for this and all subsequent calls or to proceed with the charge.

Just block all unknown callers with "should i answer" and change your voice mail to prompt the caller to leave a VM or send a text for an immediate response.
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