Indie Game Removed from Switch After Dev Reveals It Has a Hidden Code Editor

Post by lazyasciiart » Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 2:11 AM UTC

rrauenza wrote: post #69

saidajigumi wrote: post #16

The narrative in the article also misses the following point, which I've seen many times over the years, in both game dev and non-game dev shops: It is massively unprofessional to ship an Easter Egg without broad consent to do so. Planning a fun "secret" for your users? Great! Surprising people involved in the publishing pipeline , esp. in a "will I get caught" way? Not so great. That's where Rajan went off the rails…

> That's where Rajan went off the rails. No, no, he only embedded Ruby. Not Rails.

Post by jklm » Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 2:12 AM UTC

uponcoffee wrote: post #62

praptak wrote: post #40

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The fact that Nintendo were always like this does not mean it is okay. If there's anything wrong with this story it's how everyone seems to silently accept it is okay for a company to tell you what you can run on the hardware that you "buy" but not really own.

It's easy to continue the line of thought to absurdity, so I leave that as an exercise to the reader. There's a few lines here that need to be drawn somewhere. Nintendo sells access to a platform to developers. It's not unreasonable that they aren't allowed free reign to control what's run; at some point one developers free reign would conflict with anothers. Should the consumer have free control over what's running…

Post by pocpoczoc » Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 2:28 AM UTC

jdietrich wrote: post #60

praptak wrote: post #40

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The fact that Nintendo were always like this does not mean it is okay. If there's anything wrong with this story it's how everyone seems to silently accept it is okay for a company to tell you what you can run on the hardware that you "buy" but not really own.

That's not the story at all. Rajan entered a voluntary agreement with Nintendo, through which his game would be distributed on their platform. He deliberately deceived them about the presence of a potentially security-critical feature, thereby breaching that agreement; Nintendo took the perfectly reasonable decision to remove his game from their platform. There is a perfectly reasonable debate to be had about bootloa…

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 2:30 AM UTC

naikrovek wrote: post #96

jdietrich wrote: post #11

>The narrative that has played out online is exactly what's wrong with this trashcan fire of a world. >Everyone is an armchair expert. Everyone thought the worst. You've seen that I've been called a dick, idiot, and everything in between. Because sensationalised news sells. If the narrative was 'I added a sandbox to A Dark Room that lets you mod the game and provide a medium for kids to code (and technical parents to…

It doesn't allow arbitrary code execution. It allows interpreted code that fits the provided API which does not allow the spawning of new processes. Very different thing.

Post by comex » Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 2:37 AM UTC

beenBoutIT wrote: post #100

Jonnax wrote: post #71

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The difference is that I know that I'm not buying a general purpose computer when I buy a console. And I'm perfectly fine with that. It's an entertainment device. I have plenty of things that I can run my code on.

I'm pretty sure even RMS would agree, a game console is a single purpose device not unlike a toaster oven.