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Re: Jenkins Is Getting Old

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Post by ASalazarMX »

chubot wrote: post #29
FrenchyJiby wrote: post #18

I sincerely wish I could move away from Jenkins for the reasons stated in TFA (GUI-oriented, slow, hard to backup/config, test-in-production mentality and boundless plugins) but I've never found something that fits the bill. The much-touted repo integrations (travis, circle...) all have an exclusive focus on build-test-deploy CI of single repos. But when you have many similar repos (modules) with similar build steps…

side note: I am confused by your usage of "TFA". I looked it up and it stands for what I thought it does, which has a pejorative connotation. That doesn't seem to be what you meant? https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TFA

It's used so much in conversation that it has ceased to be pejorative.

Re: Jenkins Is Getting Old

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Post by drewg123 »

detaro wrote: post #20
rglullis wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yours is not the first post that contains nothing more than an outline version of the link. Why is this becoming a thing? The page seems perfectly readable as it is...

It tells me to sign up if I want to read the article.

Try the "Just Read" extension.

Re: Jenkins Is Getting Old

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Post by zrail »

chubot wrote: post #29
FrenchyJiby wrote: post #18

I sincerely wish I could move away from Jenkins for the reasons stated in TFA (GUI-oriented, slow, hard to backup/config, test-in-production mentality and boundless plugins) but I've never found something that fits the bill. The much-touted repo integrations (travis, circle...) all have an exclusive focus on build-test-deploy CI of single repos. But when you have many similar repos (modules) with similar build steps…

side note: I am confused by your usage of "TFA". I looked it up and it stands for what I thought it does, which has a pejorative connotation. That doesn't seem to be what you meant? https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TFA

I am not OP but I am 100% sure the author meant "the fucking article".

Re: Jenkins Is Getting Old

#34

Post by chrisweekly »

rglullis wrote: post #23
notacoward wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's readable as long as you're willing to log in via Google or Facebook. Some people aren't.

I did neither and it opened fine even when I opened the link on incognito mode. Maybe some A/B testing thing? Anyway, good to know there is a reason for it. One of my pet projects is a self-hosted open source paywall-buster and read-it-later service. I wonder if the HN admins would be interested in integrating with the site?

I'm not an HN admin, but I'd love to learn more about your pet project.

Re: Jenkins Is Getting Old

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Post by evv555 »

FrenchyJiby wrote: post #18

I sincerely wish I could move away from Jenkins for the reasons stated in TFA (GUI-oriented, slow, hard to backup/config, test-in-production mentality and boundless plugins) but I've never found something that fits the bill. The much-touted repo integrations (travis, circle...) all have an exclusive focus on build-test-deploy CI of single repos. But when you have many similar repos (modules) with similar build steps…

>Anyone got a sane alternative to jenkins for us poor souls?

I haven't tried this yet myself but AWS CodePipeline lets you have Jenkins as a stage in the pipeline. You use Jenkins only for the bits you need without the extra plugins. The resulting Jenkins box is supposed to be very lean and avoid the problems you describe.

Re: Jenkins Is Getting Old

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Post by chubot »

zrail wrote: post #33
chubot wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

side note: I am confused by your usage of "TFA". I looked it up and it stands for what I thought it does, which has a pejorative connotation. That doesn't seem to be what you meant? https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TFA

I am not OP but I am 100% sure the author meant "the fucking article".

Yeah but that is derived from RTFA or RTFM, but that meaning doesn't apply here at all.

I think the people using TFA don't know what it means... Whenever I see that I think they are angry about something or arguing, but he's instead supporting the point of the article. Doesn't make sense.

Re: Jenkins Is Getting Old

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Post by kristianc »

lultimouomo wrote: post #19
rglullis wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yours is not the first post that contains nothing more than an outline version of the link. Why is this becoming a thing? The page seems perfectly readable as it is...

The page is actually a medium post which immediately pops up an annoying modal trying to get you to give them your personal information and phones home who knows what kind of analytics. I'm not sure about the ethics of outline.com, but I can totally see why people are using it.

I'm not sure about the ethics of taking other people's content and putting it behind a paywall.

Re: Jenkins Is Getting Old

#39

Post by willcodeforfoo »

There are lots of alternatives for Jenkins as a CI builder but I haven't found many for Jenkins as a web-based cron with a nice UI that keeps track of history, has tons of options for notifications on failures, and quickly allows re-building (even with user-supplied parameters!)

We use Jenkins for running backup jobs, periodically updating data, and building quick little jobs for support staff to run--infrequently enough that they don't warrant adding to our admin app but frequently enough that bothering at developer adds up.

Re: Jenkins Is Getting Old

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Post by FrenchyJiby »

chubot wrote: post #29
FrenchyJiby wrote: post #18

I sincerely wish I could move away from Jenkins for the reasons stated in TFA (GUI-oriented, slow, hard to backup/config, test-in-production mentality and boundless plugins) but I've never found something that fits the bill. The much-touted repo integrations (travis, circle...) all have an exclusive focus on build-test-deploy CI of single repos. But when you have many similar repos (modules) with similar build steps…

side note: I am confused by your usage of "TFA". I looked it up and it stands for what I thought it does, which has a pejorative connotation. That doesn't seem to be what you meant? https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TFA

Heyo, sorry about that, I was playing on the fact that common parlance has tamed the usage to have "TFA = The FINE Article" in civil discourse =) My bad, will check my assumptions some more!
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