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Minecraft’s creator excluded from event over his ‘comments and opinions’

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Post by snuxoll »

malvosenior wrote: post #7
meddlepal wrote: post #2

Seriously what the fuck happened to Notch. I don't blame Microsoft from excluding him at all.

He's self-made and not afraid to express his opinions even if they aren't politically correct. People like him should be applauded as they are increasingly rare in today's society.

Anyone can express their beliefs within reason (the US courts have put some limits on what falls under the first amendment, of course) - you just can’t be surprised when there are consequences for your public expression.

Notch obviously doesn’t care what people think of him anymore, that’s not something I personally feel we should be applauding. It’s one thing if you’re using “fuck you money” to speak against the status quo, it’s another to just be a bigoted jerk on Twitter.

Re: Minecraft’s creator excluded from event over his ‘comments and opinions’

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Post by NotAnEconomist »

otikik wrote: post #6
NotAnEconomist wrote: post #4

> Microsoft’s CEO Satya Nadella recently emailed staff saying that if they didn’t support building a more inclusive culture, “your rewards, your career trajectory, and possibly even your employment will be impacted.” Translation: "If you keep pointing out we illegally discriminate during hiring and promotion, we'll fire you." His comment is a jab at the people complaining about actual racism at Microsoft -- a veiled…

Nope.

Thank you for your thoughtful reply, which addressed both the suppression of whistleblowers about racism at Microsoft, and the racist philosophy underpinning the "diversity" movement.

You're truly a deep thinker, who challenged and then shifted my views on this topic.

A person who stood out from the hoards who silently suppressed my view without a solid refutation, because they felt uncomfortable when their beliefs were challenged.

Re: Minecraft’s creator excluded from event over his ‘comments and opinions’

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Post by belltaco »

malvosenior wrote: post #7
meddlepal wrote: post #2

Seriously what the fuck happened to Notch. I don't blame Microsoft from excluding him at all.

He's self-made and not afraid to express his opinions even if they aren't politically correct. People like him should be applauded as they are increasingly rare in today's society.

Saying "Pizzagate is real" or that Q is legit isn't an opinion, it's making up false facts. And that statement has been used to push Pizzagate among the masses.

Re: Minecraft’s creator excluded from event over his ‘comments and opinions’

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Post by bitwize »

Microsoft is simply applying a strategy that's known to work (see: the study confirming that banning problematic subreddits has had a positive effect on Reddit as a whole). This is what happens when you hold views decent people don't hold: you get silenced, ostracized, and your name blotted from your own work. Want decent people to engage with you? Change your mind.

Re: Minecraft’s creator excluded from event over his ‘comments and opinions’

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Post by NotAnEconomist »

kevincrane wrote: post #9
malvosenior wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's self-made and not afraid to express his opinions even if they aren't politically correct. People like him should be applauded as they are increasingly rare in today's society.

Alternatively, we could not applaud racist assholes.

We are in the middle of applauding the Microsoft CEO for supporting racism against whites and Asians.

I don't think that works as a theory for how to respond to this, unless we're just going to dislike everyone.

Re: Minecraft’s creator excluded from event over his ‘comments and opinions’

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Post by nailer »

meddlepal wrote: post #2

Seriously what the fuck happened to Notch. I don't blame Microsoft from excluding him at all.

(Replying to this comment as it's at the top, though the poster should read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html)

From the links in this article: he called Zoe Quinn a c-word (which many people have), tweeted "It's ok to be white." (which it is), and says he doesn't regard biological men who identify as women are women (which is a fairly common belief). QAnon is a weird conspiracy theory, but the rest don't strike me as particularly odd.

It's probably worth having a Code of Conduct which requires explicit hard left belief systems if you're going to exclude people with mainstream beliefs.

Re: Minecraft’s creator excluded from event over his ‘comments and opinions’

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Post by segmondy »

It's sad how wealth affected Notch or perhaps magnified his character. A long time ago, I started following him on Twitter and I think I lasted about 2 weeks before I unfollowed him. The sheer negativity and woe is me is bananas. If there's a prime example that money doesn't buy happiness, he is one.

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Post by jayess »

nailer wrote: post #17
meddlepal wrote: post #2

Seriously what the fuck happened to Notch. I don't blame Microsoft from excluding him at all.

(Replying to this comment as it's at the top, though the poster should read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ) From the links in this article: he called Zoe Quinn a c-word (which many people have), tweeted "It's ok to be white." (which it is), and says he doesn't regard biological men who identify as women are women (which is a fairly common belief). QAnon is a weird conspiracy theory, but the rest do…

It's the new puritanical movement.

Re: Minecraft’s creator excluded from event over his ‘comments and opinions’

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Post by NotAnEconomist »

rcxdude wrote: post #10
malvosenior wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's self-made and not afraid to express his opinions even if they aren't politically correct. People like him should be applauded as they are increasingly rare in today's society.

Do you think the reasons most people don't express opinions like the ones notch has expressed recently is due to a fear of backlash over being considered 'un-PC' as opposed to not actually holding those opinions? This rhetoric plays into a common theme among extremists which is quite dangerous: "Everyone actually thinks the same way I do, they are just afraid to say it".

> Do you think the reasons most people don't express opinions like the ones notch has expressed recently is due to a fear of backlash over being considered 'un-PC' as opposed to not actually holding those opinions?

Repeated surveys show that the identitarian left accounts for about 8% of the population, and that their views are over represented in media, while people are genuinely afraid of being publicly lynched for saying the wrong thing.

The entire #walkaway movement started because of that.

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