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Coffee Cups Are Next

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Re: Coffee Cups Are Next

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Is coffee served cooler in your experience. 3 minutes seems like it would still be pretty hot?

Expresso is a small quantity so it cools faster than a big bucket of dark water.

That's understandable, but I guess I was thinking more of a cup of coffee.

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My office had a lot of ceramic cups that were taken by employees from the cabinet, used and left wherever in the kitchenette. There was one dedicated employee whose main job was to gather the cups and put them in the dishwasher and after they are cleaned, put them back in the cabinet. Dishwasher ran constantly and that employee kept kitchenette neat in between of cup handling. I think there were even two dishwashers…

Funnily enough, we just hit a similar issue. I'm part of an environmental group at my workplace, and one of our recent pilots was to get rid of single-use paper cups. It was crazy: despite ample clean ceramic cups being available --and indeed stacked on top of the coffee machine!-- many people defaulted to paper cups, sometimes to the tune of having 5-10 used paper cups on their desk at the end of a day. Anyway, one…

> train people how to use the dishwashers

If any workplace ever implements this - leave.

I'm not paying my engineers $200k a year to load a dishwasher for even a minute. We have cleaners who do it as part of their rotation, anything else and you're running a clown show.

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My office had a lot of ceramic cups that were taken by employees from the cabinet, used and left wherever in the kitchenette. There was one dedicated employee whose main job was to gather the cups and put them in the dishwasher and after they are cleaned, put them back in the cabinet. Dishwasher ran constantly and that employee kept kitchenette neat in between of cup handling. I think there were even two dishwashers…

Funnily enough, we just hit a similar issue. I'm part of an environmental group at my workplace, and one of our recent pilots was to get rid of single-use paper cups. It was crazy: despite ample clean ceramic cups being available --and indeed stacked on top of the coffee machine!-- many people defaulted to paper cups, sometimes to the tune of having 5-10 used paper cups on their desk at the end of a day. Anyway, one…

> unexpectedly find it strangely therapeutic to do the dish-washing

I'm always delighted when I'm doing non-development things at work:

"Hey, I'm a part time dishwasher with developer salary!"

Re: Coffee Cups Are Next

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To me this thread encapsulates why over engineering is bad. We don't need complex solutions to the problem of re-usable cups. We don't need an external company that will sanitise a returnable mug for you. The solution is right in front of everyone - buy a reusable container/mug/cup, fill it up, clean it when you're done. It isn't hard.

It is hard if you're lazy and irresponsible, like me. I wager the world is filled with people like me, this, I'm counting on "over engineering" to save me.

Re: Coffee Cups Are Next

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Funnily enough, we just hit a similar issue. I'm part of an environmental group at my workplace, and one of our recent pilots was to get rid of single-use paper cups. It was crazy: despite ample clean ceramic cups being available --and indeed stacked on top of the coffee machine!-- many people defaulted to paper cups, sometimes to the tune of having 5-10 used paper cups on their desk at the end of a day. Anyway, one…

> train people how to use the dishwashers If any workplace ever implements this - leave. I'm not paying my engineers $200k a year to load a dishwasher for even a minute. We have cleaners who do it as part of their rotation, anything else and you're running a clown show.

So do you use LOC as the primary metric for productivity? I've definitely had insights into a current project while performing a mindless task like washing dishes, in fact there are certain times where I will seek out a task like that.

To me, the bigger WTF is having to train people to use a dishwasher--hopefully that is something most adults can be expected to know how to do already.

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Many under-sink filtration systems last at least 10,000 gallons. They take 5 minutes max to replace. Are you saying that 5 minute task every few years is more work then manually lugging 10,000 gallons of water through say, 10,000 separate containers, carrying each one, opening them manually each time, tipping and pouring them, then discarding them? (that's the weight of about 25 cars) Not to be rude but I don't belie…

> Many under-sink filtration systems last at least 10,000 gallons. Every filtration system I have owned needs to have the cartridges replaced every six months. What system has multi-year cartridges?

Not multi-year, but my mother has a culligan reverse-osmosis system (their tap water tastes horrible). There are three filters, the first two get replaced yearly, the RO membrane filter lasts 3 years. Tastes indistinguishable from filtered bottled water.

Re: Coffee Cups Are Next

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This just hurts to read... It is almost as bad as the somewhat inexplicable growth in bottled water in places where tap water is perfectly acceptable. In fact many of the branded bottles of water are not spring water but bottled tap water.

Tap water here in the Netherlands is excellent, and I’d much prefer it over bottled water, but that’s only available in places where you’d take your jacket off: home, friends, work, school, hairdresser and the likes. If you’re going somewhere you can bring water or buy water in bottles, but I’ve never seen other ways of getting water.

>Tap water here in the Netherlands is excellent, and I’d much prefer it over bottled water

Tap water and bottled water in Utrecht are pumped from EXACTLY the same source. :)

Re: Coffee Cups Are Next

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> train people how to use the dishwashers If any workplace ever implements this - leave. I'm not paying my engineers $200k a year to load a dishwasher for even a minute. We have cleaners who do it as part of their rotation, anything else and you're running a clown show.

So do you use LOC as the primary metric for productivity? I've definitely had insights into a current project while performing a mindless task like washing dishes, in fact there are certain times where I will seek out a task like that. To me, the bigger WTF is having to train people to use a dishwasher--hopefully that is something most adults can be expected to know how to do already.

Having the dishwasher as a choice is one thing, forcing it? That’s crossing a line. And you know you’ll get that all seeing eye watching who isn’t washing their cups and scheming to make their life hell.

Serenity is priceless for coders.

Re: Coffee Cups Are Next

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Plenty of cafés already have coffee mugs and glasses. I’m drinking a cup of coffee from a Homer Laughlin mug warmed atop the espresso machine at a small mom and pop establishment right now. When I’m done with it, it will go into a bus bin a few feet away and washed by the staff here whenever they’re not too busy to do a load of dishes. If I had brought my own cup, it would have been a 10¢ discount but to be honest, t…

Surely the 10¢ discount should be for the people who _don't_ bring their own cup. But since it's a small shop I assume the 10¢ "fee" is to subsidise the dishwashing labour.

The idea is you’re not paying for the takeaway cup, lid and (usually) sleeve, and you’re not using a store provided cup either.

Re: Coffee Cups Are Next

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I bought mulled red wine (gluewine sp?) in a christmas market in Germany this last winter. They sell you a proper coffee-type-mug to drink it from, for 6 euros (about US$7), which you can return when you're done and they'll refund you. I kept mine, it's a nice souvenir of Cologne and I drink my coffee from it every morning :) If you had to pay, say $10 for a proper coffee mug to have your take-away coffee in, but the…

Spelling: Glühwein. There is a catch though. Those mugs either stay near the stand they were sold from, or are taken as souvenirs. This works just fine. With buying coffee on the go, people would take their mug along with them to wherever they are going, and you would have to hand it back the next time you visited that particular coffee shop or one of the same franchise. The risk of the mug getting damaged is much hi…

Kind of what https://recup.de/ is trying to solve I guess?
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