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Ask HN: How do you stay disciplined in the long run?

#1
My typical cycle of execution is something like this

Find out something through HN/Reddit/Other medium --> Get motivated --> Get good knowledge about it through research --> See others succeed, get motivated a bit more --> Execute and get to, say, 25-50% of the journey --> Get bored --> Abandon --> be passive for couple of months --> repeat.

Be it creating new websites or new products (probably the reason I have not launched something as a personal project, despite having tried like 10-11 of them with varying degree of success), weight loss journey, running, meditation etc. I have tried breaking things into manageable chunks and then taking them one-by-one, or through methodologies like GTD, or by making others accountable (tough to find someone who takes personal interest in what I would do; also, I have strongly come to perceive myself as being driven by external accountabilities which makes me good at work at office but bad at executing personal projects).

I see folks who are disciplined, are ruthless executors, are self-motivated, and wonder, what could I improve or work towards to get things in a better shape. Any suggestions?

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#2
Follow through and don't use what people do on HN/Reddit/etc. as 100% truth. Allow yourself to take breaks, but just continue exploring and doing.

People are always trying to sell themselves and embellish what they do. Plus, in posts, you're only viewing a small window of their lives. You have no idea if they suffer the same problems and just happened to write about completing one thing, ignoring all the failures along the way because no one talks about failure.

In short, don't use other people as a yard stick, but focus on yourself and being happy with what you do.

I haven't released any product, personal project, or website, but I have worked hard at my company and have been happy with things I've done for it. Does it hinder my opportunities? Probably. Do I really care? Not really, because it isn't required of me to live a good life.

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#3
I'm convinced that almost nobody is good at the whole cycle of creating/maintaining something.

Some people are great at coming up with new ideas but quickly bore with the implementation. Some people can relentlessly improve on an existing thing but can't come up with the initial idea. Some people are great stewards of an established program but don't thrive in the chaos of rapid iteration.

I think instead of trying to mold yourself into something you're not naturally good at, you should try to figure out what you are naturally good at and build a team around it to support you.

I'm speaking in broad strokes of course, but reading your post, I think you are just not going to be a sole proprietor. You need a team member who can catch your early enthusiasm and then help see the project through to completion.

You need a finisher. Not every starter is a finisher, and not every finisher is a starter, and not every finisher is a good maintainer, either. They're different things.

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#5
This is tangentially related, but I think every person has a tolerance threshold that develops early for life standards.

Fitness and money are easiest examples. For some, being fat is disguisting and unimaginable, so they will do everything possible to stay thinner. For some that threshold is having an actual six pack, and once you lose it, you go into emergency "at whatever cost" mode.

That's def the case for me with below average college-educated income - when I was below it, I was in "how can I be such a failure" mode. But now that I am above it, I am not in panic mode, even though I consider myself a failure, it's "good enough" on some "subconscious" level, despite me constantly trying to change it. Whereas if someone was born rich, I think not being able to keep up with the previous standards of life could be the threshold.

So, there are three take-aways from this. Once you establish a new height, you realize how good it is to be there and that it's possible, so you can get back there far easier. The second is that it's very easy to get lazy once you are comfortable. At that point you can also "afford a life", and that starts eating away your time. Edit: The last one is what the poster below said - maybe realizing how important these thresholds are is a key to artificially creating them.

Other than that - I think "focus on one thing at a time and set a concrete time block for it x days a week" is the vest possible strategy.

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#6
I have been doing the same cycle over the past few years. In 2019 I decided to not start anything new, only finish what I've started. So far I finished 1 thing (an article, got 1k claps on Medium, feels good), and started a new one with a friend :) I'll probably only have time to finish one more thing this year, but it's ok, at least I'll have something to show.

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#7
My opinion is that the first 25% is the most fun, the only reason to do the rest is if its how you make money, or get other rewards such as recognition or praise from users (assuming you like that).

My side projects always die soon after figuring out what I want and how to do it. My job I'm doing the messy stuff I'd prefer not to do.

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#8
I just wanted to point out it's totally normal to go through waves of interest or motivation for various things in your life. Especially if these are things unrelated to your career or work you should consider becoming less outcome focused. You mention 25%-50% of the journey - how do you define the 100%?

For something like running I think it's common to get very interested and the interest to fade out over time. This might be before you can run a marathon or half marathon - does that mean it wasn't worth it to run while you did? You may also pick it up again down the line, maybe it takes you years to get to a goal rather than a few months. You can start and stop - don't feel bad about it.

I think our society has a high focus on the super achievers and the end result. However, if you're focusing on weight loss, running or meditation you're never going to be the best. The purposes of each of those activities is to enjoy them for what they are. If you're not enjoying them move onto the next thing and you can always come back later.

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#9
I could see your issue being that you are alone in these things. I don't know who said it but the quote "if you want to go fast, go alone, if you want to go far, go with others" rings true. Finding other people to build things with, to work out with, to meditate with, is one of the most important factors.

When you read blog posts, its easy to feel that a person is doing all this by themselves, but I would bet that most of them have a solid network. This is why I think we are in this productivity porn era of computing, tech bootcamps/silicon valley are echo chambers for the stuff, and the people inside these ecosystems have it easy in the networking world.

So make some friends who are trying to do similar things. I'm in college and can say that I'm a failure at what I'm preaching, but it will help immensely if my understanding is correct.

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