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Is The NFL Keeping Cable/Satellite Companies In The TV Business?

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Re: Is The NFL Keeping Cable/Satellite Companies In The TV Business?

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I haven't had cable or satellite for 4 years, so this rings true for me. I go to bars or friends' houses to watch MNF, or I just skip more of them these days. Other than that, there's no way to get the current episodes of Dexter online without subscribing to Showtime.

Funny thing is...I'd pay for both MNF and Dexter a la cart on iTunes/Amazon if it we're available. As it stands, neither networks get any of my money. But the local bars do :)

Re: Is The NFL Keeping Cable/Satellite Companies In The TV Business?

#12

I think it's the reverse at this point: The cable companies are keeping the NFL off of the internet. The NFL makes so much money off of broadcast / cable TV that I don't see how they could make it up with internet fees.

There is the model that takes cable fees and applies them to online content. This is how espn3.com works and is getting even more interesting now that you can stream that content to an Xbox 360.

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#13
I don't know why everybody is so keen to encourage others to give up cable TV.

Sure, I don't have cable TV, and I get most of my video-watching via the internet. Where do I get my internet access from? Why, Comcast, the only provider of high-speed internet in my area.

If everybody starts getting all their TV through the internet, what will Comcast do? They'll start charging everybody a lot more for internet access in order to make up the lost revenue. For the moment, though, I'm flying under the radar, getting my internet and all the video I can watch for less than the cost of basic cable TV. I'd like to keep it that way. Therefore, sssshhh!

Re: Is The NFL Keeping Cable/Satellite Companies In The TV Business?

#14
post #4

Key point here. You can't actually stream any other major pro sport in your local market you only get out of market games (ie no Giants baseball in the Giants territory - and the territory extends north to oregon and about 300 miles south of SF) Here's the funny thing - you generally don't need cable to watch your local NFL team. You can actually usually get your local NFL team using an over the air HD antenna and if…

For a lot of people, HD antenna will give you a better picture (less compression) than cable.

Re: Is The NFL Keeping Cable/Satellite Companies In The TV Business?

#15
Like others have said, sports is the only thing that keeps me buying cable, but this whole "cable is dying" argument neglects one main point: the TV viewing experience is still way better than online video. Try flipping through 100 streaming videos as quickly as you can flip through 100 TV channels. Until IPTV or whatever you want to call it can perform as well as cable, and it can't yet, I don't see cable dying.

Mark Cuban had a good piece on this subject a year ago, still rings true:

http://www.dmwmedia.com/news/2009/03/25/mrk-cuban:-cable-tv-...

Re: Is The NFL Keeping Cable/Satellite Companies In The TV Business?

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post #13

I don't know why everybody is so keen to encourage others to give up cable TV. Sure, I don't have cable TV, and I get most of my video-watching via the internet. Where do I get my internet access from? Why, Comcast, the only provider of high-speed internet in my area. If everybody starts getting all their TV through the internet, what will Comcast do? They'll start charging everybody a lot more for internet access in…

What you're describing sounds suspiciously like an abuse by Comcast of their monopoly, to the consumers' detriment.

Re: Is The NFL Keeping Cable/Satellite Companies In The TV Business?

#17

Like others have said, sports is the only thing that keeps me buying cable, but this whole "cable is dying" argument neglects one main point: the TV viewing experience is still way better than online video. Try flipping through 100 streaming videos as quickly as you can flip through 100 TV channels. Until IPTV or whatever you want to call it can perform as well as cable, and it can't yet, I don't see cable dying. Mar…

Why would I want to flip through a hundred streaming videos? The only reason I'd flip through 100 cable stations is because there's nothing I want to watch on any of 'em... or more frequently there's a couple of things I sort-of want to watch on a couple of them, interrupted with ad breaks so frequent, long, and unpredictable in length that I can't possibly sit through them.

In contrast, Netflix gives me a full HD video of exactly what I want to watch, when I want to watch it, with no ads. It's better even than a DVD, because the DVD forces me to sit through a bunch of copyright warnings, logos for the distributor, and half the time a main menu which wants to show me fifteen seconds of clips from the movie before I can press play.

Re: Is The NFL Keeping Cable/Satellite Companies In The TV Business?

#18

Like others have said, sports is the only thing that keeps me buying cable, but this whole "cable is dying" argument neglects one main point: the TV viewing experience is still way better than online video. Try flipping through 100 streaming videos as quickly as you can flip through 100 TV channels. Until IPTV or whatever you want to call it can perform as well as cable, and it can't yet, I don't see cable dying. Mar…

http://www.ivi.tv does a pretty good job of this, at consistently high quality.

Caveats: (1) It's only for broadcast channels at this point; (2) it's unclear that what they do is legal, but they believe that it is and appear to be litigating this point.

Re: Is The NFL Keeping Cable/Satellite Companies In The TV Business?

#19

I haven't had cable or satellite for 4 years, so this rings true for me. I go to bars or friends' houses to watch MNF, or I just skip more of them these days. Other than that, there's no way to get the current episodes of Dexter online without subscribing to Showtime. Funny thing is...I'd pay for both MNF and Dexter a la cart on iTunes/Amazon if it we're available. As it stands, neither networks get any of my money.…

But the bars pay commercial rates for cable, which are thousands of dollars a month. Trust me, the NFL is peachy keen with your purchase behavior.

Re: Is The NFL Keeping Cable/Satellite Companies In The TV Business?

#20
post #4

Key point here. You can't actually stream any other major pro sport in your local market you only get out of market games (ie no Giants baseball in the Giants territory - and the territory extends north to oregon and about 300 miles south of SF) Here's the funny thing - you generally don't need cable to watch your local NFL team. You can actually usually get your local NFL team using an over the air HD antenna and if…

But what about blackouts? When the team stadium sales are below x% they aren't allowed to broadcast the game at all, in order to theoretically drive more ticket sales.

True, but blackouts are relatively rare in the NFL, unless its 2009 and you're the Raiders. In fact, the Chargers were about 1,000 tickets away from a blackout earlier this year, and posted this on their Twitter account, and quickly sold enough tickets.
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