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Study finds Reddit’s ban of its most toxic subreddits worked (2017)

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Re: Study finds Reddit’s ban of its most toxic subreddits worked (2017)

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Of course it works. It just eventually leads to the creation of different platforms with different rules. (Even though it does suppress the proliferation of certain kind of content in the short term)

As a long-term reddit visitor, I also think the quality of reddit has gone tremendously down during the last 10 years, in part due to the growing pressure on minority opinions.

The vote functionality creates a collectivist pressure and victimizes those who do not agree with the majority opinion.

I remember in the early days of reddit that interesting and controversial content was actually upvoted, while around 5 years ago a cultural shift started to happen, which created increasingly collectivist filter bubbles inside each sub-reddit, where a single dominant opinion formed.

Many, many people simply left reddit after they were repeatedly silenced by this majority dictatorship.

The small group of fascists and right-wing haters is simply a vocal minority, but there is a larger group of mostly conservative people that have been pushed out of the platform to seek other alternatives, and it has reduced the quality of content on reddit by a large percentage.

So much actually that I consider most large communities on Reddit scorched earth.

It also goes both ways, Voat and Gab are as toxic as Reddit, but obviously in a different, more obvious way.

The toxicity of Reddit is only apparent when you dig in and after some time you realize that the majority shows no mercy when it comes to suppressing minority views, increasingly narrowing down what is allowed to be said and heard.

Re: Study finds Reddit’s ban of its most toxic subreddits worked (2017)

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Reddit back in the day: bans /r/fatpeoplehate, /r/coontown, /r/jailbait, and other awful subreddits.

Reddit today: effectively bans (quarantines) /r/waterniggas simply because of the subreddit's title. It was quite literally a joke subreddit about being hydrated. Doesn't ban subreddits like /r/hapas.

Edit: The problem with reddit is that it's wildly inconsistent about banning subreddits. Insane subreddits can exist for years, but only will get banned once they start to become popular enough that they start to get noticed.

A fair amount amount of people went from reddit to voat because at the time voat was new, had signups open, and advertised itself on free speech. Note that I DO NOT support the likes of voat- I am describing the event that happened.

edit; changed substantial to fair amount

Re: Study finds Reddit’s ban of its most toxic subreddits worked (2017)

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Reddit back in the day: bans /r/fatpeoplehate, /r/coontown, /r/jailbait, and other awful subreddits. Reddit today: effectively bans (quarantines) /r/waterniggas simply because of the subreddit's title. It was quite literally a joke subreddit about being hydrated. Doesn't ban subreddits like /r/hapas. Edit: The problem with reddit is that it's wildly inconsistent about banning subreddits. Insane subreddits can exist f…

Substantial?

Re: Study finds Reddit’s ban of its most toxic subreddits worked (2017)

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They are only moving to other platforms that are harder to track, like Discord or Telegram. Just because they don't appear in the data doesn't mean that they don't exist. Then yes, you sanitize some platforms but the problem as a whole is just less evident but still growing.

Re: Study finds Reddit’s ban of its most toxic subreddits worked (2017)

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Reddit back in the day: bans /r/fatpeoplehate, /r/coontown, /r/jailbait, and other awful subreddits. Reddit today: effectively bans (quarantines) /r/waterniggas simply because of the subreddit's title. It was quite literally a joke subreddit about being hydrated. Doesn't ban subreddits like /r/hapas. Edit: The problem with reddit is that it's wildly inconsistent about banning subreddits. Insane subreddits can exist f…

> A substantial amount of people went from reddit to voat because at the time voat was new, had signups open, and advertised itself on free speech.

Luckily, we're collectively beginning to grow past the naïve belief that free speech is a virtue in itself, an ends, and understand it properly as a means, a tool, which we're all obliged to use ethically and responsibly to make our society better.

Re: Study finds Reddit’s ban of its most toxic subreddits worked (2017)

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Reddit back in the day: bans /r/fatpeoplehate, /r/coontown, /r/jailbait, and other awful subreddits. Reddit today: effectively bans (quarantines) /r/waterniggas simply because of the subreddit's title. It was quite literally a joke subreddit about being hydrated. Doesn't ban subreddits like /r/hapas. Edit: The problem with reddit is that it's wildly inconsistent about banning subreddits. Insane subreddits can exist f…

And it turns out that yes, voat and gab.ai are both filled with the utter dregs of society. Is this "free speech" positive hangout a wonderful paradise full of intellectuals and idealists? No, just a bunch of racist conspiracy nut trash.

Re: Study finds Reddit’s ban of its most toxic subreddits worked (2017)

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post #5

They are only moving to other platforms that are harder to track, like Discord or Telegram. Just because they don't appear in the data doesn't mean that they don't exist. Then yes, you sanitize some platforms but the problem as a whole is just less evident but still growing.

Well, but the point here is that the reddit staff doesn't have to worry about those users anymore, no? It's not like someone is going to stop being a right-winger just because you ban him from reddit. That's not what they expected to happen. But they want to keep their ad dollars.

Re: Study finds Reddit’s ban of its most toxic subreddits worked (2017)

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post #5

They are only moving to other platforms that are harder to track, like Discord or Telegram. Just because they don't appear in the data doesn't mean that they don't exist. Then yes, you sanitize some platforms but the problem as a whole is just less evident but still growing.

I would argue that's still a win. Discord and Telegram are more difficult to track because they are less public and visible.

The move has therefore managed to reduce the exposure that non-active participants have to toxic behaviour, and the normalization of said behaviour as something acceptable/tolerated.

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