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Brain Drain Across the United States

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Re: Brain Drain Across the United States

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Post by taurath »

Brain drain within the US is just as frequently about cultural rather than economic issues. The culture wars the republicans have been running on since the 80s turns off thoughtful people - anti-intellectualism is killing these states.

That said, it’s incredibly underserved and there’s tons of very capable and friendly people.

Edit: maybe I didn’t get the intended point across - I’d ask though, how many people do you know that moved for cultural reasons, especially from hometowns? I’m in the LGBT community where almost every single person I meet has moved for cultural reasons.

Re: Brain Drain Across the United States

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Post by crushcrashcrush »

briandear wrote: post #10

I wonder why we consider “highly educated” to mean “college educated.” I know plenty of college educated people unfit to manage a lemonade stand and plenty of “lesser educated” people that own successful companies. Using a degree as a proxy for intelligence is a mistake.

Agreed 1000%

Oh, you have an MBA? Guess I’ll have to show you how this works.

Re: Brain Drain Across the United States

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Post by sonnyblarney »

threatofrain wrote: post #3

I'm sure the parents want the kids getting out of brain-drain regions too. Why ought kids stay?

By that logic, we should all be aspiring to live in Upper E. side Manhatten, because, 'why stay anywhere else'.

Education is only one factor, there are many others.

FYI - 'Worker mobility' in the US is actually declining, and has been for some time.

This could possibly mean that regular workers are moving around less, relative to educated one's.

It also could mean as communications and transportation become easier, the 'big city' advantages are just compounding.

So the major metro areas are just sucking up everything around them.

Texas, Colorado, Illinois have a sea of purple around them.

Re: Brain Drain Across the United States

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Post by sonnyblarney »

briandear wrote: post #10

I wonder why we consider “highly educated” to mean “college educated.” I know plenty of college educated people unfit to manage a lemonade stand and plenty of “lesser educated” people that own successful companies. Using a degree as a proxy for intelligence is a mistake.

Level of education is a decent proxy for intelligence, in anything resembling an academic context. More education is usually better.

It's why companies prefer hiring people with more education.

That said, I think many roles should not require a college degree for application.

That one single thing might make a big difference - because as you hint there are tons of otherwise great people who don't specifically have the education.

Re: Brain Drain Across the United States

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Post by warent »

Trias11 wrote: post #16

The article overthinks this. I been brain drained by being offered higher pay. You want to stop brain drain? PAY! Solved.

This is an oversimplification of a more nuanced issue. For example, perhaps the places that need it most can't afford it, and the places that can afford it can only do so because they already have the existing market for it.

Re: Brain Drain Across the United States

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Post by threatofrain »

sonnyblarney wrote: post #13
threatofrain wrote: post #3

I'm sure the parents want the kids getting out of brain-drain regions too. Why ought kids stay?

By that logic, we should all be aspiring to live in Upper E. side Manhatten, because, 'why stay anywhere else'. Education is only one factor, there are many others. FYI - 'Worker mobility' in the US is actually declining, and has been for some time. This could possibly mean that regular workers are moving around less, relative to educated one's. It also could mean as communications and transportation become easier, t…

So why should kids with the opportunity to leave choose to stay?

Re: Brain Drain Across the United States

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Post by myko »

taurath wrote: post #11

Brain drain within the US is just as frequently about cultural rather than economic issues. The culture wars the republicans have been running on since the 80s turns off thoughtful people - anti-intellectualism is killing these states. That said, it’s incredibly underserved and there’s tons of very capable and friendly people. Edit: maybe I didn’t get the intended point across - I’d ask though, how many people do you…

This is what I saw growing up in rural Ohio. Many HS classmates moved out of state and others moved into the major urban centers of Ohio.
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