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Librem 5 April Update

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Re: Librem 5 April Update

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I'm most interested in the Librem 5 from the point of view of Privacy: I don't consent to Google or Apple tracking me just because they made the phone/OS on the phone I bought. I just hope essential apps like Wire, Signal, KeePassXC, FastMail, ProtonMail and MySudo are quickly available for the Librem

Just curious, what's the real advantage here of a manufactured Linux phone over just booting Ubuntu Touch on a compatible model, provided it were in a more mature state?

Re: Librem 5 April Update

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post #2

I love to see that Purism is progressing a lot with their open smartphone. I look forward to have a 100% Linux phone. Hopefully people who care about privacy, customization and owning their phone will get what they deserve.

> I look forward to have a 100% Linux phone. Is this really what's special about it? IMO what matters is that it runs free software to the greatest extent possible. I suspect that most people who will be buying it don't care whether it runs Linux or a BSD or even something like Minix, as long is it presents the familiar POSIX-like interface, has good software available (GNOME, Plasma Mobile), and is loyal to the user…

Probably Linux is the most pragmatic choice, because Android is based on Linux and vendors produce drivers specifically for Linux.

Re: Librem 5 April Update

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First time I've heard of Librem 5 looks really exciting.

I can see my dream of being able to use my phone as a dockable computer coming true where I just use the phone to remote desktop to my more powerful development PC.

Anyone recommend a linux remote desktop client that you can connect to windows with?

Re: Librem 5 April Update

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post #13

First time I've heard of Librem 5 looks really exciting. I can see my dream of being able to use my phone as a dockable computer coming true where I just use the phone to remote desktop to my more powerful development PC. Anyone recommend a linux remote desktop client that you can connect to windows with?

I use remmina everyday, works good.

Re: Librem 5 April Update

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post #7

I'm most interested in the Librem 5 from the point of view of Privacy: I don't consent to Google or Apple tracking me just because they made the phone/OS on the phone I bought. I just hope essential apps like Wire, Signal, KeePassXC, FastMail, ProtonMail and MySudo are quickly available for the Librem

Just curious, what's the real advantage here of a manufactured Linux phone over just booting Ubuntu Touch on a compatible model, provided it were in a more mature state?

It has hardware kill-switches for Bluetooth, WLAN, microphone the camera and the GSM/Baseband controller (this is the killer-feature for me -- pun indended). Replacable parts (screen, camera, battery, data-storage) -- allowing you to repair your own device, when it fails, thus being independent from mainline manufacturers.

Re: Librem 5 April Update

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post #7

I'm most interested in the Librem 5 from the point of view of Privacy: I don't consent to Google or Apple tracking me just because they made the phone/OS on the phone I bought. I just hope essential apps like Wire, Signal, KeePassXC, FastMail, ProtonMail and MySudo are quickly available for the Librem

Just curious, what's the real advantage here of a manufactured Linux phone over just booting Ubuntu Touch on a compatible model, provided it were in a more mature state?

You cannot run "Linux" on your "Linux phone" as in going to kernel.org, downloading the source, compiling it and installing it.

Re: Librem 5 April Update

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just curious, what's the real advantage here of a manufactured Linux phone over just booting Ubuntu Touch on a compatible model, provided it were in a more mature state?

You cannot run "Linux" on your "Linux phone" as in going to kernel.org, downloading the source, compiling it and installing it.

There are a handful of devices that can run mainline kernels via postmarketOS: https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices

That being said, the project is still early, almost nothing supports cellular data, SMS, or phone calls.

Re: Librem 5 April Update

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post #18
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You cannot run "Linux" on your "Linux phone" as in going to kernel.org, downloading the source, compiling it and installing it.

There are a handful of devices that can run mainline kernels via postmarketOS: https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices That being said, the project is still early, almost nothing supports cellular data, SMS, or phone calls.

Yes, thing is, the amount of work that seems to be needed to bring up a mainline kernel "properly" on even one of the most open and best-documented SOC's in industry (the one Purism chose for this phone) is already a bit scary as shown by the OP post. Now imagine multiplying that by the zillions of phone models that Cyanogenmod used to support or that LineageOS still supports today. That's basically the scope of work that pmOS has to manage... It's not very easy.

Re: Librem 5 April Update

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I look forward to have a 100% Linux phone. Is this really what's special about it? IMO what matters is that it runs free software to the greatest extent possible. I suspect that most people who will be buying it don't care whether it runs Linux or a BSD or even something like Minix, as long is it presents the familiar POSIX-like interface, has good software available (GNOME, Plasma Mobile), and is loyal to the user…

Probably Linux is the most pragmatic choice, because Android is based on Linux and vendors produce drivers specifically for Linux.

AOSP would probably be the most pragmatic choice.
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