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Impact of a Night of Sleep Deprivation on Novice Developers’ Performance (2018)

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Re: Impact of a Night of Sleep Deprivation on Novice Developers’ Performance (2018)

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Post by beenBoutIT »

d0mine wrote: post #66
gubbrora wrote: post #45

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It can be repaid in the sense that we stop being tired. This is what people mean by repaid. But the lost productivity from when we were tired can not be recovered.

The book "why we sleep" as I understand suggests the increase in probability of dementia if you don't sleep enough i.e., lack of sleep leads to brain damage that is not fixed by sleeping longer later.

It's more about the quality of sleep as perfect sleep seems to be able to reverse Alzheimer's in mice . Without some kind of chemical intervention there's no way a complex system like the brain will fix itself, the bad sleep further deteriorates the brain's ability to get good sleep and each day the problem gets exponentially worse. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/25457559/

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Post by dsfyu404ed »

dragonwriter wrote: post #122
dsfyu404ed wrote: post #113

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But your body doesn't absorb the alcohol instantly. Those test results make no sense from a medical standpoint. There should be a lag between drinking and the performance hit.

> But your body doesn't absorb the alcohol instantly Yes, it does. I mean, it takes time to fully absorb it, but alcohol begins entering the bloodstream immediately when reaching the stomach, it is not digested. Rapidity of effect will vary by a lot of personal and other factors.

Yes but the difference between 0 and 1, possibly even 2 beers is going to be below the noise threshold for normal values of "beer".

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Post by dragonwriter »

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #132
dragonwriter wrote: post #122

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> But your body doesn't absorb the alcohol instantly Yes, it does. I mean, it takes time to fully absorb it, but alcohol begins entering the bloodstream immediately when reaching the stomach, it is not digested. Rapidity of effect will vary by a lot of personal and other factors.

Yes but the difference between 0 and 1, possibly even 2 beers is going to be below the noise threshold for normal values of "beer".

> Yes but the difference between 0 and 1, possibly even 2 beers is going to be below the noise threshold for normal values of "beer"

In terms of feeling? Maybe. In terms of measurable effects on motor skills, probably not. They start much earlier (both in time from drinking and quantity of drinking) than people tend to think, or even recognize at the time if they aren't actually measuring them.

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Post by lrem »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #117
blotter_paper wrote: post #107

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I'm not trolling, nor do I feel I'm dismissing it lightly. I'd rather take a relatively minor risk of death than knowingly inflict whatever psychological trauma comes from forcing an infant to sleep alone. I think the horror of this is seriously downplayed by our society. It's relatively safe to leave a baby in a box now, but this hasn't been the case for our deep evolutionary past. If you're a baby being left in a b…

Are you a parent? Are these hypotheticals you're running, or speaking from your own experience?

As a parent I must say he's not completely wrong. We have decided to not co-sleep, to not get stuck with this. But quite often my wife would fall asleep without putting the baby back to the crib. At which point the baby would not cry till the morning, unless a dirty nappy started itching.

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Post by blotter_paper »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #117
blotter_paper wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not trolling, nor do I feel I'm dismissing it lightly. I'd rather take a relatively minor risk of death than knowingly inflict whatever psychological trauma comes from forcing an infant to sleep alone. I think the horror of this is seriously downplayed by our society. It's relatively safe to leave a baby in a box now, but this hasn't been the case for our deep evolutionary past. If you're a baby being left in a b…

Are you a parent? Are these hypotheticals you're running, or speaking from your own experience?

Not a parent. Have spent a decent amount of time around children. Have stayed up all night watching the door of a hospital room while my sister co-slept with her newborn child, waking her up when the nurses jiggled the doorknob.

Re: Impact of a Night of Sleep Deprivation on Novice Developers’ Performance (2018)

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Post by heylook »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #115
ben_w wrote: post #109

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Most other species grow their own pants, which remain permanently attached. Effectively. :)

With the exception of sheep, at which point we must ask - what other species steals another species pants?

What other species nurtures hordes of other brainless species to harvest for the antecedents of artificial pants?

Re: Impact of a Night of Sleep Deprivation on Novice Developers’ Performance (2018)

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

blotter_paper wrote: post #135
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you a parent? Are these hypotheticals you're running, or speaking from your own experience?

Not a parent. Have spent a decent amount of time around children. Have stayed up all night watching the door of a hospital room while my sister co-slept with her newborn child, waking her up when the nurses jiggled the doorknob.

> Have stayed up all night watching the door of a hospital room while my sister co-slept with her newborn child, waking her up when the nurses jiggled the doorknob.

Why?

Re: Impact of a Night of Sleep Deprivation on Novice Developers’ Performance (2018)

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Post by worldvoyageur »

heymijo wrote: post #12
wallflower wrote: post #10

When I was younger, like many people, I thought of all-nighters as a thing to brag about. Now, I see sleep deprivation as a serious health debt that you pay nosebleed compound interest rates on. If you get less than your preferred amount of sleep, everyday living can become more complicated. Simple tasks can become dangerous. Do not walk down stairs without holding the hand rail if you are tired! Also, my sleep track…

"as a serious health debt" Except, sleep isn't a debt because the loss can't be repaid. This is one of many important things I have picked up from Dr. Matthew Walker who wrote "Why We Sleep" and has been doing the podcast rounds lately. Not to pick on you at all. It sounds like you have made some big realizations and are making fantastic changes. Realizing I can't make up sleep to pay off the "debt" has been eye open…

A good night sleep is required for your mind to process the previous day. Lessons learned get cemented. You can miss a good night's sleep and make it up later in terms of being rested, but whatever lessons and growth from the day prior to the lack of sleep will never be processed. They are lost, even if you sleep enough on a later night. It's sort of like saying there is 'eat healthy debt' where you binge on junk food for a day and try to cancel it by eating super healthy the next day. That healthy eating is a good thing, but it doesn't un-eat the unhealthy food.

Edit: to incorporate the valid suggestion below

Re: Impact of a Night of Sleep Deprivation on Novice Developers’ Performance (2018)

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Post by blotter_paper »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #137
blotter_paper wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not a parent. Have spent a decent amount of time around children. Have stayed up all night watching the door of a hospital room while my sister co-slept with her newborn child, waking her up when the nurses jiggled the doorknob.

> Have stayed up all night watching the door of a hospital room while my sister co-slept with her newborn child, waking her up when the nurses jiggled the doorknob. Why?

Co-sleeping was forbidden by hospital. If they'd seen her sleeping with the kid they would have observed her for the rest of the stay to make sure it didn't happen again. She disagreed with this rule, as did I.
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