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I’m sorry folks, 198MB menu bar apps is what we’re going to have unless a cross platform GUI effort equivalent to that of Chromium comes about.
So many sub-debates hidden in this "cross-platform native GUI": 1) I want to write a GUI code once 2) I want to ship something that works on Windows / Linux / MacOS 2.1) I want to ship something that looks the same on Windows / Linux / MacOS 3) I want to ship a binary that works on Windows, a binary that works on Linux, a binary that works 3.1) I want to ship a small and efficient binary 4) I want to ship something t…
So many sub-debates hidden in this "cross-platform native GUI": 1) I want to write a GUI code once 2) I want to ship something that works on Windows / Linux / MacOS 2.1) I want to ship something that looks the same on Windows / Linux / MacOS 3) I want to ship a binary that works on Windows, a binary that works on Linux, a binary that works 3.1) I want to ship a small and efficient binary 4) I want to ship something t…
I'm working on something that might do #4 and #5: https://vlang.io/#ui An example of a small GUI app: https://github.com/vlang/v/tree/master/examples/users_gui The app is about 100 KB on all platforms with zero dependencies and uses native toolkits (WinAPI, Cocoa).
So many sub-debates hidden in this "cross-platform native GUI": 1) I want to write a GUI code once 2) I want to ship something that works on Windows / Linux / MacOS 2.1) I want to ship something that looks the same on Windows / Linux / MacOS 3) I want to ship a binary that works on Windows, a binary that works on Linux, a binary that works 3.1) I want to ship a small and efficient binary 4) I want to ship something t…
> I suspect they're esthetics Totally unrelated to your point, but I'm curious as to what this word means in this context.
So many sub-debates hidden in this "cross-platform native GUI": 1) I want to write a GUI code once 2) I want to ship something that works on Windows / Linux / MacOS 2.1) I want to ship something that looks the same on Windows / Linux / MacOS 3) I want to ship a binary that works on Windows, a binary that works on Linux, a binary that works 3.1) I want to ship a small and efficient binary 4) I want to ship something t…
> 1) I want to write a GUI code once > 2.1) I want to ship something that looks the same on Windows / Linux / MacOS > 3.1) I want to ship a small and efficient binary well, with Qt I write my code once, which looks the same on windows / linux / osx / $nicheos and the result is fairly performant - I've got tables with tens of thousands of elements which update at rates greater than 100hz and the UI does not bat an eye…
But sure, qt seems to hit 1,2,3 , although 3.1 will fuel flamme wars that we dont realky care about as long as you can ship code. Good for you !
So many sub-debates hidden in this "cross-platform native GUI": 1) I want to write a GUI code once 2) I want to ship something that works on Windows / Linux / MacOS 2.1) I want to ship something that looks the same on Windows / Linux / MacOS 3) I want to ship a binary that works on Windows, a binary that works on Linux, a binary that works 3.1) I want to ship a small and efficient binary 4) I want to ship something t…
Aren't 2.1 and 5 pretty impossible to have at the same time? How can you look like Windows on Windows, Linux on Linux, and Mac on Mac, all while looking the same everywhere?
So many sub-debates hidden in this "cross-platform native GUI": 1) I want to write a GUI code once 2) I want to ship something that works on Windows / Linux / MacOS 2.1) I want to ship something that looks the same on Windows / Linux / MacOS 3) I want to ship a binary that works on Windows, a binary that works on Linux, a binary that works 3.1) I want to ship a small and efficient binary 4) I want to ship something t…
> 2.1) I want to ship something that looks the same on Windows / Linux / MacOS Why? I want my macOS apps to use Mac-native UI elements, and Windows apps to use Windows-native UI elements. (There is no one native Linux UI, so we can leave that one aside...)
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> 2.1) I want to ship something that looks the same on Windows / Linux / MacOS Why? I want my macOS apps to use Mac-native UI elements, and Windows apps to use Windows-native UI elements. (There is no one native Linux UI, so we can leave that one aside...)
This is less fashionable now in the era of Electron apps - users are starting to expect apps that look _the same_ everywhere. See VSCode, Discord, Spotify... It's easier to get a single code-base that 'just works' across platforms if you have an abstraction that is truly cross-platform. One of the major value propositions of developing with Electron is this ability to develop cross-platform 'with confidence' - I can…
To take Discord as an example, I don't know that people actually can't live without the UI slavishly copied for every platform; I think people rather want light and dark themes on all platforms, message formatting to look basically the same, and for everything to be found in roughly the same place.
This idea that users expect apps to look the same is, I feel sure, something someone said and everybody has gone along with. In my experience, people want things to behave consistently — so if Discord had a native Windows client and a native macOS client, people would be more interested in whether or not they could still find the little microphone and headphone buttons at the lower-left of the screen, sod if the icons and colours are identical.
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> 2.1) I want to ship something that looks the same on Windows / Linux / MacOS Why? I want my macOS apps to use Mac-native UI elements, and Windows apps to use Windows-native UI elements. (There is no one native Linux UI, so we can leave that one aside...)
I don't really have an attachment to any of the three platforms; I use all three. Moving between different windowing environments and UI designs is a huge context switch and provides no value to me (it's just eye candy).
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> 2.1) I want to ship something that looks the same on Windows / Linux / MacOS Why? I want my macOS apps to use Mac-native UI elements, and Windows apps to use Windows-native UI elements. (There is no one native Linux UI, so we can leave that one aside...)
I want the complete opposite. I use the three systems almost daily, and I freaking hate to have to context-switch to the platform's look-and-feel. Thankfully KDE apps work mostly everywhere nowadays. Most of the users of the FOSS software I'm developing also switch platforms depending on the project they're in, but they want the software to be the same everywhere for instance.