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Bullshitters: Who Are They and What Do We Know about Their Lives? [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I don't know" is such an underappreciated phrase (followed with action to remedy that).

We had an interviewee (is that a word?) today who said that he didn't know and to me that was a reason to hire him.

Maybe it is a word, but I think candidate is a more generally accepted term

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The US has a long history as the land of the bullshitter - the snake-oil sales men, the Psychics and Tarot card readers, the self-help authors, the "business coaches", MLM... the list is endless. And people love it so much they'll gladly get into debt for it and even vote for the king of Bullshit for president.

Ah, why did you have to spoil a great cultural observation with a contemporary political dig at the end?

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#96

The notion of bullshitters needs to be brought to the front of our industry's consciousness. Our industry is one where the impostor complex is rife and anyone who sounds confident must know what they're talking about, since even the PhD's aren't half as confident in their field of expertise as a bullshitter is at anything. The tech industry is increasingly inundated with these types of people who manage to get placed…

Are the fizzbuzzers real? I feel like their existence is somewhat mythological.

I've seen people fail fizz buzz firsthand.

Re: Bullshitters: Who Are They and What Do We Know about Their Lives? [pdf]

#97

When job postings are full of trivial BS language, why complain that some people are completely serious about playing that BS game? It's a wart of contemporary corporate culture, particularly in the tech sector. When you are searching for a "blockchain expert to influence the team", you are attracting only extrovert types maybe with good communication abilities, not a modest and calm guy possessing a sense of inner p…

This is the issue. If your marketing, product, and hiring lingo is all self-aggrandizing BS, then your organization will come to reflect that same style. Tech companies are creating BS, communicating BS, and rewarding BS, so is it really such a surprise that the workers themselves have live/breath/eat BS in order to succeed? Those who don't embrace are seen as not fitting in to that organization's "corporate culture".

Re: Bullshitters: Who Are They and What Do We Know about Their Lives? [pdf]

#98

The notion of bullshitters needs to be brought to the front of our industry's consciousness. Our industry is one where the impostor complex is rife and anyone who sounds confident must know what they're talking about, since even the PhD's aren't half as confident in their field of expertise as a bullshitter is at anything. The tech industry is increasingly inundated with these types of people who manage to get placed…

>The notion of bullshitters needs to be brought to the front of our industry's consciousness The industry (tech, startups, VC money) do bring bullshit to the front of the industry consciousness. I’ve never seen another industry push and promote “fake it till you make it” so hard. Democratizing this...disrupting that...we respect your privacy and data...DAO/code is law...Self driving cars...uber is creating good jobs.…

>> push and promote “fake it till you make it”

Causality then render a situation where bullshitters have now gotten so good at faking it that buyers of tech are simply herrings among hungry dolphins. Bullshitters in our industry have united and made it impossible for buyers (herrings) to see any other choice but to become swallowed as a meal. So they try their best to choose the very best dolphin to be swallowed by. And then they are swallowed.

Because:

- founders (who are bullshitters) will hire other bullshitters - the world is saturated with flawed, illogical messages and we have become used to it

Solution:

- stand the F up on every meeting where you hear BS, and call "shenanigans"!.

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It's important to note that this study focuses on data from 15-year-olds taking a math test. I assert that drawing broad conclusions based on that sample is suspect and may be, in fact, bullshit itself.

I agree with your point. 15 year old boys are by no means a good sample for the population as a whole. I would argue 15 year old boys are in fact one of the worst samples for this study. Aren't boys going through puberty known to be reckless and shortsighted?

If you’re going to study something, study it where you can best measure it. Develop your tools and methods. Create theories on this and apply them to new, more difficult domains... hopefully get feedback and insights from the larger community as you progress. Science proceeds at a pace and through a process.
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