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AI-powered laundry-folding robot company has filed for bankruptcy

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Joking aside, a truly admirable goal. My god it would help everyone alive.

I don't fold my clothes, and haven't in 20 years. Which is to say, my clothes do not get folded by anyone. No one folde them for me, nor do I fold them myself. You don't have to fold most clothing. You can just toss it all in a basket and let it be. Most cotton wrinkles will disappear after being worn for about 20 minutes. Movement, body heat and ambient humidity removes wrinkles automatically from a lot of clothing.…

Unfolded clothes take a larger storage space. True, if left undisturbed in the basket after coming out of the drier, wrinkles are minimal. The problem is when other people in the household paw through the laundry and compress it. Also, if you want to put the laundry in drawers, it gets compressed and wrinkles badly.

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We still saved a ton of time in comparison to how clean our clothes are.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's balanced out by having to spend more time shopping for clothes because all those repeated trips through the washer and dryer wear them out more quickly. A while back we got fed up with our apartment's laundry facilities, and switched to one of those Haier portable washer units, drying on a clothesline, and washing less often. At this point I'm almost annoyed with how much longer my clo…

We have a completely different experience, I have many of the same polos and jeans as I had 10 years ago. Still going strong with just a bit of fading. Small differences in people's perspective and lifestyles like this is fascinating to me.

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You have to admit the washing machine is one of wonders of the modern world, yet taken for granted. Until they were invented, a wife or servant essentially devoted most of a whole weekday to washing clothes. A washing machine and dryer cuts this to a couple hours a week. Clever people seek to cut this time even further.

But it turns out that washing machines didn't do much to save time. In the past people just didn't wash their clothes as often. Now people will wash their clothes after a single wear, and it's still mostly women who are doing the washing in families. https://twitter.com/TimHarford/status/1113123861602713600 https://twitter.com/DeconinckKoen/status/1054097445351776256

Nicer clothes also last longer, they stand up to washing.

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This fits into the category I saw a reporter describe as "Things 20 something engineers wish their mom still did for them." Similar to juicero (spelling), Amazon proposal to deliver packages inside your house....etc.

Have you had to the laundry for a house of 5 people? It's hours of work a week to put the clothes away, and it's mindless work to boot. It is parents of multiple children that would benefit the most from this, just like how they benefited from automated dishwashers and clothes washing machines.

I do the laundry for 4 people.

I wouldn't mind the product, I still think the product fits that category.

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But it turns out that washing machines didn't do much to save time. In the past people just didn't wash their clothes as often. Now people will wash their clothes after a single wear, and it's still mostly women who are doing the washing in families. https://twitter.com/TimHarford/status/1113123861602713600 https://twitter.com/DeconinckKoen/status/1054097445351776256

We still saved a ton of time in comparison to how clean our clothes are.

Slightly tangential but on the other hand, washing clothes pollutes the oceans with plastic[0][1] i.e. washing more frequently causes more pollution.

[0]: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/sep/27/washing-clot...

[1]: https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/9/19/17800654/clothes-pla...

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> If someone want their clothes folded they fold them when picking them up from the clean pile It's still work, isn't it? When it gets done is irrelevant. My larger point is that your "it's not that hard" is only true in a very narrow set of circumstances that I'm skeptical exist even for you. Many problems seem simple if you constrain the variables tightly enough. But in the real world, not everyone dresses exclusiv…

Similar to people in other comments, I do not normally fold my clothes. It is my choice and thus optional, which was my point. How much work a person spend washing depending on optional choices. > work in jobs where looking like a hobo is acceptable That is a bit offensive. Not everyone is a model and earn money depending on their appearance. There exist a quite large middle ground between hobo and model.

> There exist a quite large middle ground between hobo and model

You're the only one who brought up models, so the dichotomy is yours.

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> At last modern fabrics don't require ironing anymore. Would those "modern fabrics" be the ones using synthetic fibres that contribute thousands of plastic microparticles to the water each time they go through the wash?

I guess GP is talking about "poly cotton blends" rather than pure polyester or acrylic. But yes, poly-cotton blends do release microplastics. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/sep/27/washing-clot... > They found that acrylic was the worst offender, releasing nearly 730,000 tiny synthetic particles per wash, five times more than polyester-cotton blend fabric, and nearly 1.5 times as many as polyester. People ha…

This is very noticeable if you watch someone wash a fuzzy blanket bought from Walmart. It seems like half the blanket goes down the drain after the first wash.

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post #64

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But it turns out that washing machines didn't do much to save time. In the past people just didn't wash their clothes as often. Now people will wash their clothes after a single wear, and it's still mostly women who are doing the washing in families. https://twitter.com/TimHarford/status/1113123861602713600 https://twitter.com/DeconinckKoen/status/1054097445351776256

"washing" is a euphemism for pressing a button, though

I assume you live in a country which also has a dryer? In Europe AFAIK most people don't have one (at least nobody I knows has one), therefore hanging a load afterwards takes 10-20 minutes, depending on the size of your washing machine, which generally they are considerably smaller than US versions, hence requiring multiple sessions if you have more than one person in the household.

I'm not complaining, 10-20 minutes per week is trivial, but it's also not just pressing a button.

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This is a gross oversimplification, especially washing in a family (> 1 person). 1. Sorting - when you buy clothing, do you take handling instructions into account? Accounting for handling is very hard! Good luck shopping online, hunting through instruction tags hidden on sides of clothes, all while keeping price reasonable. I do not like shopping, so I choose the first thing that looks ok and is comfortable - I am o…

Step 1 becomes progressively easier after each wash. Steps 2, 3, 4 are completely eliminated by having an in-unit washer as you said, like most families in western Europe do at least. Step 6 is also pretty quick with practice.

You skipped IMO the most time-intensive step #5 - hanging the clothes to dry.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it turns out that washing machines didn't do much to save time. In the past people just didn't wash their clothes as often. Now people will wash their clothes after a single wear, and it's still mostly women who are doing the washing in families. https://twitter.com/TimHarford/status/1113123861602713600 https://twitter.com/DeconinckKoen/status/1054097445351776256

Nicer clothes also last longer, they stand up to washing.

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