The shining example of Google vs apple for me is the package manager. Since Android D, updating my apps has caused the phone to slow to a crawl. Fps drops heavily, apps are laggy, etc. There is no option to only download updates when charging. Google has done nothing about this for years now. I still use Android because I need the control. But parts of the platform are just inexcusable (imo) in 2019. Dont get me wron…
Android updates are getting slower and slower, despite Google's best efforts
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Re: Android updates are getting slower and slower, despite Google's best efforts
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
The replaceable launcher is a big one. Tasker was another (though I heard Google Play was cracking down on non-accessibility uses of accessibility features for security reasons?) I switched back to iOS when the SE came out, but I still miss Nova Launcher. Especially being able to put two actions on each dock icon, one for tap and one for swipe up. So if you have something like friends split over two main chat platfor…
I just can't believe that 10 years later I still have to have a grid and have to hide apps I don't care about in folders.
Re: Android updates are getting slower and slower, despite Google's best efforts
#33> Android devices aren’t kept up to date, leaving their users unable to benefit from advancements in the platform. What advancements? Both iOS and Android have for a few years reached maturity, not much exciting with each new update. At least not without new hardware, as most updates are to support something physical (notch, fingerprints, face scan etc). I used to hate my phone not being updated, so switched to a bra…
> What advancements? Security?
Re: Android updates are getting slower and slower, despite Google's best efforts
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
The replaceable launcher is a big one. Tasker was another (though I heard Google Play was cracking down on non-accessibility uses of accessibility features for security reasons?) I switched back to iOS when the SE came out, but I still miss Nova Launcher. Especially being able to put two actions on each dock icon, one for tap and one for swipe up. So if you have something like friends split over two main chat platfor…
I just can't believe that 10 years later I still have to have a grid and have to hide apps I don't care about in folders.
Re: Android updates are getting slower and slower, despite Google's best efforts
#35The shining example of Google vs apple for me is the package manager. Since Android D, updating my apps has caused the phone to slow to a crawl. Fps drops heavily, apps are laggy, etc. There is no option to only download updates when charging. Google has done nothing about this for years now. I still use Android because I need the control. But parts of the platform are just inexcusable (imo) in 2019. Dont get me wron…
Re: Android updates are getting slower and slower, despite Google's best efforts
#36This seems quite wrong, older Android versions do receive some security maintenance releases from google. It's of course up to the device vendor if a particular model gets it though. This is info is a bit hard to find but it seems like KitKat was supported until October 2017, Lollipop until March 2018 and Marshmallow until August 2018. (taken from wikipedia and here: https://www.quora.com/Will-the-Android-5-Lollipop-still-exis...)
So you could be running a phone with KitKat, which was released in 2013 but still got the last update 1.5 years ago.
Re: Android updates are getting slower and slower, despite Google's best efforts
#37This is why Google is devoting more and more resources to the Fuchsia project: to replace Android with an operating system that supports over-the-air (or WiFi) updates like iOS does and Windows Mobile did. It's the only way Google can effectively fight their fragmentation issue: get everyone to upgrade to the latest OS version.
Re: Android updates are getting slower and slower, despite Google's best efforts
#38The shining example of Google vs apple for me is the package manager. Since Android D, updating my apps has caused the phone to slow to a crawl. Fps drops heavily, apps are laggy, etc. There is no option to only download updates when charging. Google has done nothing about this for years now. I still use Android because I need the control. But parts of the platform are just inexcusable (imo) in 2019. Dont get me wron…
What control does Android give you that you want? (I’m legitimately asking: is there an immediate pragmatic reason, or is it a principled stance against walled gardens?)
Re: Android updates are getting slower and slower, despite Google's best efforts
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the fact that my carrier refuses to stay on top of updates for my device anyway. I don't get why the carrier has to be involved at all. It has nothing to do with them at all so why do they even get a say in when a phone gets an update ?
As someone who spent the better part of two decades at a carrier (I joined as an acqui-hire to build an ISP), I've always been fascinated by the amount of crap carriers insist on having pre-loaded (and kept working) in device firmwares. Carriers want (demand, even) that their online portals, customer support apps and (most importantly) ringtone shops be pre-loaded on devices, and have always tied that to critical fir…
Re: Android updates are getting slower and slower, despite Google's best efforts
#40Android is an awesome OS, but the app store feels "unregulated" and I feel like I'm not in control who and what copies my data.