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Re: ProtonMail now offers elliptic curve cryptography

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This gets asked often, but as someone wanting to get away from Gmail, any thoughts on Fastmail vs. ProtonMail?

I use both.

FastMail:

+ simple, lean, paid email.

+ fast web interface

++ working full text search( not just subject line)

+ No ads.

+ iOS App. Fast and simple.

+ Integrated calendar

- No encryption.

- group calendar has been a pain or non intuitive.

Protonmail:

+ Encrypted

+ Lean, safe web interface

+ IOS App that works.

+ or - Free as in cost.

- - - No Full text search.

- can't really configure your chosen email client to it...

- last time I tried, dragged and dropped images disappeared. May have improved UI now.

I only use protonmail for automated alerts and system originated communication.

Re: ProtonMail now offers elliptic curve cryptography

#22
Off topic

I had a proton email created when it was announced & didn't use it. I found out that my mailbox decryption for that email id is not working (not sure how, I use password manager) & I haven't set a recovery email to recover my account.

I saw a HN comment earlier telling, the user had recovered their Proton mail account by answering few questions to customer service.

I attempted the same, the issue is that I used VPN to create the email id & didn't provide any personal details for the account.

They asked questions like,

-Do you remember the exact time and date when your account was created? -When was the last time you have accessed your account? -What is your display name? -Do you remember to which addresses you have sent your last messages? -Do you remember the email subjects of the last sent messages?

I tried to answer the account creation date by using the date of password creation in my password manager (the login password was working); but the support didn't seem to buy it.

They were insistent on,

-Can you please tell us if you remember from which addresses have you received your last few messages? -Could you tell us if you have used the ProtonMail account to sign up for some other web services?

I told them, I don't remember receiving email from anyone else & I didn't sign up for any service

-There is a service that the xxxxx@protonmail.com address has been used to sign up for. Can you please tell us what that service is?

I told them again that I didn't sign up for any service using that email id.

- Can you tell us the full address below?

no-xxxxx@drxxxxx.com

Even though I could obviously guess the username of that email id. I told them that I didn't sign up with such service, that it must be a spam mail sent by some service.

They said,

- If you have not signed up for this service, the account probably belongs to someone else.

Then I typed 'no-xxxxx@drxxxxx.com' on Google Search, the instant results gave 'no-reply@dropbox.com' as the first result.

I sent them,

Hey sorry, I remembered the service. I did signed up for Dropbox & used the account for a while.

The email id you asked was,

no-reply@dropbox.com

They reset the account & I got access to it.

Edit: Had to fix the xxxxx.

Re: ProtonMail now offers elliptic curve cryptography

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Anyone using ProtonMail regularly? I created an account but haven’t used it much. How are your experiences? Any iOS users who can comment on their experience with proton mail and the default mail client? I don’t went to switch to something that won’t be around in a decade or so.

Yep I swapped to it last year and I've had no problems. Works very well for me.

Re: ProtonMail now offers elliptic curve cryptography

#24
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They represent vastly different philosophies. Fastmail is direct alternative to Gmail with good UI and UX but they're based in Australia and against message encryption as it impacts their UX (for example it's not possible to index encrypted messages). Protonmail is an OpenPGP company (they directly invest in OpenPGP.js) but have issues supporting other standards. For example IMAP/SMTP is available only through a brid…

They’re based in Aus, but their servers are in the US (which is why I decided against switching from GMail to them in the end, and picked someone a little more local).

That means their servers cannot be directly accessed but since they're based in Australia the company can be compelled to install decryption software without notifying anyone.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW-OMR-iWOE

Re: ProtonMail now offers elliptic curve cryptography

#25

This gets asked often, but as someone wanting to get away from Gmail, any thoughts on Fastmail vs. ProtonMail?

I use both. FastMail: + simple, lean, paid email. + fast web interface ++ working full text search( not just subject line) + No ads. + iOS App. Fast and simple. + Integrated calendar - No encryption. - group calendar has been a pain or non intuitive. Protonmail: + Encrypted + Lean, safe web interface + IOS App that works. + or - Free as in cost. - - - No Full text search. - can't really configure your chosen email cl…

About this point: "- can't really configure your chosen email client to it..."

Do you have any experience with using the IMAP Bridge? It is a daemon you run locally that translates between Protonmail's internal protocol and IMAP, to let you use your email client of choice. I'm using it and it seems to be working OK in my experience, but I don't use my Protonmail account heavily.

Re: ProtonMail now offers elliptic curve cryptography

#26

This gets asked often, but as someone wanting to get away from Gmail, any thoughts on Fastmail vs. ProtonMail?

I recommend checking out Mailbox.org or Posteo as well. They are much cheaper, and Mailbox.org allows for custom domains, so that's a definite plus.

Re: ProtonMail now offers elliptic curve cryptography

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Anyone using ProtonMail regularly? I created an account but haven’t used it much. How are your experiences? Any iOS users who can comment on their experience with proton mail and the default mail client? I don’t went to switch to something that won’t be around in a decade or so.

Works pretty well on iOS and desktop using the bridge. Has been my main account for about a year now.

Re: ProtonMail now offers elliptic curve cryptography

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post #2

Anyone using ProtonMail regularly? I created an account but haven’t used it much. How are your experiences? Any iOS users who can comment on their experience with proton mail and the default mail client? I don’t went to switch to something that won’t be around in a decade or so.

I have used it for my main email account for some years now. The web client is fine, the iOS client is fine, and the ProtonMail Bridge allows me to bring it into my Mail.app.

The encryption is great and the anti-spam works well enough. No complaints.

Re: ProtonMail now offers elliptic curve cryptography

#29

Off topic I had a proton email created when it was announced & didn't use it. I found out that my mailbox decryption for that email id is not working (not sure how, I use password manager) & I haven't set a recovery email to recover my account. I saw a HN comment earlier telling, the user had recovered their Proton mail account by answering few questions to customer service. I attempted the same, the issue is that I…

There’s two separate passwords. If you reset your encryption password it’s supposed to make all prior received mail unreadable. Was this the case for you?

Re: ProtonMail now offers elliptic curve cryptography

#30

Off topic I had a proton email created when it was announced & didn't use it. I found out that my mailbox decryption for that email id is not working (not sure how, I use password manager) & I haven't set a recovery email to recover my account. I saw a HN comment earlier telling, the user had recovered their Proton mail account by answering few questions to customer service. I attempted the same, the issue is that I…

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