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Re: Ask HN: What are your tips to reduce drinking alcohol?

#32
When I lived in NYC I started inviting friends for a "walk and talk" instead of going to a bar. Going to a bar is such a generic crutch for "I want to spend some time with you". Walking around the city and catching up while on a nice amble was a refreshing change. Saved some money too.

Re: Ask HN: What are your tips to reduce drinking alcohol?

#33
This is just a personal anecdote, but after taking Ecstasy/MDMA once around 9 months ago i realised how bad the alcoholic "high" is. Since then i have been drinking way less. Often only one or two beers, then i'm done. I guess what im trying to say is to reflect over who you become and how alcohol affects your personality, temperament and motoric skills when drinking alcohol excessively. Knowing i will become bad at speech, get bad motorics, and start focusing more and more on sex, and will start behaving like a cave-man towards women and men alike makes me think of alcohol in a totally separate light than before.

Re: Ask HN: What are your tips to reduce drinking alcohol?

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post #32

When I lived in NYC I started inviting friends for a "walk and talk" instead of going to a bar. Going to a bar is such a generic crutch for "I want to spend some time with you". Walking around the city and catching up while on a nice amble was a refreshing change. Saved some money too.

This is a really good advice. I have started going on walks with my friends as well instead of going to a pub. Inspires ideas and you get way clearer thoughts.

Re: Ask HN: What are your tips to reduce drinking alcohol?

#36
I think I have a different view on this than most people here.

It seems that there is a tendency to simply suggest that anyone who does drinks to excess sometimes is an alcoholic and therefore is a special case who cannot drink.

What I observe is that most (not only a special few) people who drink have times where they over-do it and it usually has significant negative consequences in those cases.

In my opinion people want to blame the individual because they love alcohol and don't want to admit that it could be a problem in itself.

I think there is a basic thing working against everyone who intends to moderate their alcohol consumption which is that alcohol reduces your ability to make good decisions. So on a bad day or circumstance with a reduced cognitive capacity, anyone can make a wrong decision about whether to have another drink.

So personally I think the answer is just to find other activities that are fun that don't require alcohol. Also this idea that anyone who runs into problems is an alcoholic is false and effectively stigmatizes people who decide to quit because it has the suggestion that they are an alcoholic and something is wrong with them.

If you sometimes run into problems with alcohol it's not you. It's the chemical. Don't let people try to blame you for it.

To me the answer for social lubrication is just to have some kind of structure for group activities, in other words a game. It works fine. You don't see kids walking around depressed because they couldn't go drinking with their buddies. Kids have activities and play games and have fun. There is nothing about being an adult that makes it so you can no longer have fun without alcohol.

Re: Ask HN: What are your tips to reduce drinking alcohol?

#38

If you're not a "one or two drinks" type of person and alcohol is a negatively impacting you, then you really have to permanently stop drinking like Justin Kan. The average drinker "keeps a lid" by moderating their intake because they know how to stop. It's that simple. If you don't know how to stop, then you have to stop completely.

This is something I guess I cannot understand about people who consume alcohol to the point of blacking out... For me the consequences are so harsh I just never seek to near that point. I achieve a certain level of buzz, and simply maintain it, sipping throughout the social event. It's quite pleasant, doesn't take many drinks to uphold, and I don't feel hungover in the morning. Maybe some of it is just "brain wiring"?

Re: Ask HN: What are your tips to reduce drinking alcohol?

#39
It's easy for social drinking, I did it to.

There are some great 0% beers out there in Belgium. I personally recommend "Brugse Zot" ( with alcohol) and "Sport Zot" ( without alcohol), nobody will see the difference and it will make it a lot easier. ( Both taste great)

If you go to someone at home, just bring 1 pack of each with you and drink the 0%. It's the best trick I found out to reduce social drinking.

Just drink 1 of 2 without and try it out. It's actually not much different, the social "vibe" is the same.

The biggest difference seems to be when you drink water ( socially)

Ps. Only drank 1 evening in the weekend. But it was mostly when I had a lot of stress from work, that I drank too much

Re: Ask HN: What are your tips to reduce drinking alcohol?

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My fear is that OP is an alcoholic (yes, you can be an alcoholic without drinking - it's that you're genetically predisposed to having a drinking problem). In this case abstinence is the only answer. If you have problems to which you cannot give up even a weekend then that's a red flag.

Yes, I share your concern. That's why I framed the answer the way I did. But not everyone who occasionally drinks to excess is an alcoholic.

And, despite popular belief, there are other ways to manage alcoholism than the 12 steps & total abstinence.
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