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I'm one of the inventors of RSS and I need your help to reboot the Internet

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Re: I'm one of the inventors of RSS and I need your help to reboot the Internet

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Post by burtonator »

ankiplease wrote: post #90

What are the prospects on an ipad pro app? I paid $1500+ for my ipad. I'm very willing to pay for a good, open-source incremental reading solution on my iPad (with exportable content and easy backup). We are at the pre-history of spaced repetition learning. This will have very large effects on society. Just ask any engineer how much they already forgot of what they learned in college. Coursera et al will get into thi…

Great question. I'm working in improving our tablet support. It's a lot easier than the mobile support honestly.

If you try the polar webapp on your tablet and give me feedback I'll almost certainly implement any changes you need quickly.

The goal for us is that we're going to charge for crowd storage and maybe for the mobile apps but probably only for really aggressive users.

Still TBD

Re: I'm one of the inventors of RSS and I need your help to reboot the Internet

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Post by burtonator »

sct202 wrote: post #102
burtonator wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RSS 2.0 was a Dave Winer proprietary thing where no one else was involved.

Have you written a history of RSS article, because it seems like a juicy story to tell?

honestly I did on my old old blog from like +10 years ago but the URL has bitrotted ;)

Re: I'm one of the inventors of RSS and I need your help to reboot the Internet

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Post by donttrackmebro »

For what it's worth, I think Polar sounds awesome and excitedly downloaded it one of the last times it appeared here, but the tracking policy is a total deal breaker for me.

https://getpolarized.io/docs/tracking-policy.html

> Polar uses Google Analytics and other 3rd party services to track your usage of Polar for quality assurance, UI/UX and usability issues, fault detection, and adoption and usage of new features.

> There may be data leaks (such as the name of a book in an exception log) but we try to keep this to either zero or a minimum by iterating and improving any potential data leaks.

I appreciate that you are up front about it, but the attitude that you are entitled to my usage data and it's okay to introduce private data leaks (to third parties!) as long as you fix them later is enough to turn me off even if there was an opt out.

It's too late to win me back but I would have happily paid for this if you took privacy seriously.

Re: I'm one of the inventors of RSS and I need your help to reboot the Internet

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Post by jayalpha »

You got a lot of critic here but feedback is good. I will try out your product. I am happy that its exits an an app and not web only. I don't know if this can "reboot" the internet or become a money making business. But looks interesting for sure.

What changed my life was recoll https://www.lesbonscomptes.com/recoll/

I also looked into OpenPaper but in the end it offers nothing that recoll does not and recoll does it better. https://openpaper.work/en-us/

Marking PDFs, make them searchable and adding comments in Polar could be great for grants and writing a thesis.

EDIT:

1. I really DO like the webcapture feature. I often save importent webpages since I know they may either not be available anymore in the future or I can't find the link anymore. This feature seems smooth already. But how can I sure that your software will still work in 10 years? Do you have an export feature already?

2. I would really like to be able to have folders as a feature to sort stuff better.

3. Your blog does not have an RSS feed.

Re: I'm one of the inventors of RSS and I need your help to reboot the Internet

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Post by behringer »

scrooched_moose wrote: post #27
kristianc wrote: post #10

From a marketing perspective, it’s really advisable to tell people what your thing is before asking for money. Not being snarky - from taking a quick glance I genuinely couldn’t tell what the thing is and I’m unlikely to sit through a video without at least some high level intro of what I’m going to get.

And even if I knew what I was supporting...I guess the plan is to raise $27/current user (which seems completely unrealistic) which will allow them to limp along until they definitely raise $150,000 from the "Internet as a whole", which will allow them to limp along until they definitely get approved for a whole bunch of grants? Nothing about that inspires any confidence and left me pretty convinced that I would be f…

Also the premium parts, are those open source? What is the premium stuff? He promises a breakdown and doesn't show anything on this page, and the donate page is broken.

Re: I'm one of the inventors of RSS and I need your help to reboot the Internet

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Post by behringer »

alexandercrohde wrote: post #50
scrooched_moose wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And even if I knew what I was supporting...I guess the plan is to raise $27/current user (which seems completely unrealistic) which will allow them to limp along until they definitely raise $150,000 from the "Internet as a whole", which will allow them to limp along until they definitely get approved for a whole bunch of grants? Nothing about that inspires any confidence and left me pretty convinced that I would be f…

Right? Not to be a dick, but it sounds like this is roughly something not unlike a search engine. Google was built in a garage and available for free for its whole existence. So as much as I believe in the abstract idea of making knowledge more accessible online, I'm not gonna pay before I see a working example of something better, and I might never pay.

I'd pay for a google that wasn't run by google.

Re: I'm one of the inventors of RSS and I need your help to reboot the Internet

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Post by ramtatatam »

I have gone through the article and trying to understand what is so different with this project compared to other I see on the internet that would make me to donate... I read on almost every startup blog that idea must be crystalised, short so everyone just get it, and if it takes long to explain then most likely it's not the right idea... Or maybe I'm not intelligent enough to get it.

Re: I'm one of the inventors of RSS and I need your help to reboot the Internet

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Post by dingaling »

burtonator wrote: post #54
jeswin wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're a for profit company, running on a propriety firebase backend, focused on solving one single (but important) use case for which solutions having varying degrees of success and utility already exist. You're not going to "reboot the internet" - that headline is a very grandiose claim likely to turn off most people on this forum.

Well I suck if my goal is anything other trying to make the world a better place. I've been working on Polar for free for the last six months ten hours a day 6-7 days a week because I want the world to be a better place. But hey.. I guess I should be doing this for free because I'm grandiose and trying to make the world a better place.

Opera Unite had the potential to reboot the Internet by including a simple-to-use web server and content manager alongside the browser. It had basic blogging, streaming and even a chat server. It could be used by 'normal' users to self-host their own content and to share files without them having to download an app or sign up to a subscription.

Whereas Polar seems to be aiming for a stratum above those end-users. But such techy people can already self-host if they want to. Most just don't want to. It's not a technology problem so much as a time-opportunity issue.

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