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They think they are above the law: the firms who own America's voting system

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> “To say that they don’t have any evidence of any wrongdoing is not to say that nothing untoward happened,” Raskin said. “It’s simply to say that we don’t have the evidence of it.”

What kind of "show me the man and I'll show you the crime" nonsense is this? Why doesn't this article talk about how DHS was caught red-handed hacking into GA election systems?

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Voting is one of the very few use-cases I can think of where Blockchain would actually be a valuable and differentiating addition.

Im a blockchain noob, but if the election was driven by blockchain, how would one protect against Chinese mining warehouses trying to gain control of the network? What would a double spend attack look like? Again, just a blockchain noob asking noob questions

I don't think blockchain necessarily means anyone being able to make blocks.

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It would be a lot easier to trust an electronic voting system if it was open-source, open-hardware, and votes were recorded on a public blockchain.

But such a system is incompatible with the secret ballot, and is therefore vulnerable to voter coercion. Didn't vote for the right candidate? You're fired "for performance reasons".

It would be pseudo-anonymous like Bitcoin. You would keep the mapping between public keys and real-world identities private. But perhaps some percentage of people would choose to waive their right to privacy, further strengthening trust in the system. Statistically, the public voters should be in line with the final outcome.

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Voting is one of the very few use-cases I can think of where Blockchain would actually be a valuable and differentiating addition.

Im a blockchain noob, but if the election was driven by blockchain, how would one protect against Chinese mining warehouses trying to gain control of the network? What would a double spend attack look like? Again, just a blockchain noob asking noob questions

Blockchain is not the same thing as cryptocurrency. Cryptocurrency is just one application of blockchain. Double spend wouldn’t exist because we’re not talking about money, and the voting servers don’t need to be run by random public people. You’re confusing too many things here.

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Voting is one of the very few use-cases I can think of where Blockchain would actually be a valuable and differentiating addition.

Im a blockchain noob, but if the election was driven by blockchain, how would one protect against Chinese mining warehouses trying to gain control of the network? What would a double spend attack look like? Again, just a blockchain noob asking noob questions

Herein lies the rub with blockchain systems. If they're public, they're attackable, and if they're private, they're slower, more power hungry, and less flexible than a plain old database. It's not a dumb question, but blockchain doesn't provide good answers :)

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I would feel better if these folks https://www.gaming.nv.gov/index.aspx?page=15 helped establish the best practices for voting machine approval.

Seriously, what does it say about our society that it is harder to deploy a slot machine in Reno than a voting machine in Peoria?

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Im a blockchain noob, but if the election was driven by blockchain, how would one protect against Chinese mining warehouses trying to gain control of the network? What would a double spend attack look like? Again, just a blockchain noob asking noob questions

I don't think blockchain necessarily means anyone being able to make blocks.

So the important part is the visibility of the blockchain, not the distributed control? One could still verify whether tampering had occurred?

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But such a system is incompatible with the secret ballot, and is therefore vulnerable to voter coercion. Didn't vote for the right candidate? You're fired "for performance reasons".

It would be pseudo-anonymous like Bitcoin. You would keep the mapping between public keys and real-world identities private. But perhaps some percentage of people would choose to waive their right to privacy, further strengthening trust in the system. Statistically, the public voters should be in line with the final outcome.

There’s no reason to have identifying information at all. That would be handled at the voting location just like it is now.

Blockchain voting doesn’t mean you can then vote over the Internet — you’d just have a better type of system in place at the voting locations.

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It would be a lot easier to trust an electronic voting system if it was open-source, open-hardware, and votes were recorded on a public blockchain.

Voting is one of the very few use-cases I can think of where Blockchain would actually be a valuable and differentiating addition.

all social media (or any system) where you dont trust the entities that are holding your data are candidates for blockchain.

With blockchain based databases you can have entities that store massive amounts of data encrypted, but they cant read it or access it. The blockchain controls access to it. The data itself doesnt need to be replicated, just the access control. This resolves the issue of very slow blockchain databases.

The storage providers can charge the blockchain for storage and access.

blockchain disintermediates access control, storage, and display.

With open protocols for data, you could use any number of reader clients to access your (and other) data.

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