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Apple News has a notification spam problem

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Re: Apple News has a notification spam problem

#11

Post by discordance »

Bud wrote: post #7

This is an article in search of a problem. It takes 5 seconds to disable ALL notifications from this (or any other) app.

The problem is that this is the default behavior of Apple News and is poor design. It doesn't even align with Apple's own Human Interface Guidelines[0], which states "If you send multiple notifications for the same thing, you fill up Notification Center, and users may turn off notifications from your app."

[0]: https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guideline...

Re: Apple News has a notification spam problem

#12

Post by threeseed »

j-c-hewitt wrote: post #10

I turn it off and every so often Apple decides that no, I want their dumb news notifications again. Then it goes off again. I have never received an Apple News notification that was not dumb, stupid, and useless. It's sort of like airport CNN except in your pocket that randomly turns itself on after you have opted out of it.

I would be filling a bug report over at http://bugreporter.apple.com

Definitely not normal for the OS to be ignoring notification settings.

Re: Apple News has a notification spam problem

#13

Post by threeseed »

discordance wrote: post #11
Bud wrote: post #7

This is an article in search of a problem. It takes 5 seconds to disable ALL notifications from this (or any other) app.

The problem is that this is the default behavior of Apple News and is poor design. It doesn't even align with Apple's own Human Interface Guidelines[0], which states "If you send multiple notifications for the same thing, you fill up Notification Center, and users may turn off notifications from your app." [0]: https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guideline...

But it isn't notifications for the same thing. They are different articles.

Re: Apple News has a notification spam problem

#16

Post by garmaine »

threeseed wrote: post #12
j-c-hewitt wrote: post #10

I turn it off and every so often Apple decides that no, I want their dumb news notifications again. Then it goes off again. I have never received an Apple News notification that was not dumb, stupid, and useless. It's sort of like airport CNN except in your pocket that randomly turns itself on after you have opted out of it.

I would be filling a bug report over at http://bugreporter.apple.com Definitely not normal for the OS to be ignoring notification settings.

It's not ignoring so much ass the internal array of notification options changes, or the app is upgraded across a major OS release, or something else which causes a new or replacement notification setting to take on its default value.

The problem, if anything, is that whatever test suite they run doesn't include someone opting out of everything, applying the update, and then checking if they are still opted out of everything (including new stuff that didn't exist before).

Re: Apple News has a notification spam problem

#18

Post by hutattedonmyarm »

adnanazadsg wrote: post #3

This is something I had noticed as well. Its really surprising that Apple would allow this, since they usually care a lot about user experience. And judging by the amount of notifications - I'd be very surprised if there's anyone left who hasn't turned on notifications for the news app. I wonder why they wouldn't just compile a Morning and Evening digest and send notifications only then (even that would be aggressive…

I still and happily get most of my news from my RSS feed

Re: Apple News has a notification spam problem

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Post by JimDabell »

garmaine wrote: post #16
threeseed wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would be filling a bug report over at http://bugreporter.apple.com Definitely not normal for the OS to be ignoring notification settings.

It's not ignoring so much ass the internal array of notification options changes, or the app is upgraded across a major OS release, or something else which causes a new or replacement notification setting to take on its default value. The problem, if anything, is that whatever test suite they run doesn't include someone opting out of everything, applying the update, and then checking if they are still opted out of ev…

This definitely doesn't sound correct. Aside from the fact that the default for notifications is zero permissions, Apple don't keep adding new notification types. I've never seen the type of "reset" you're talking about in 10+ years of developing iOS apps.

If you're certain you've disabled notifications (Settings > News > Notifications > Allow Notifications), then file a bug.

Re: Apple News has a notification spam problem

#20

Post by JimDabell »

discordance wrote: post #11
Bud wrote: post #7

This is an article in search of a problem. It takes 5 seconds to disable ALL notifications from this (or any other) app.

The problem is that this is the default behavior of Apple News and is poor design. It doesn't even align with Apple's own Human Interface Guidelines[0], which states "If you send multiple notifications for the same thing, you fill up Notification Center, and users may turn off notifications from your app." [0]: https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guideline...

> The problem is that this is the default behavior of Apple News

This is not the default behaviour. No application has permission to send you notifications unless you enable it.

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