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JetBlue has started using facial recognition instead of boarding passes

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Re: JetBlue has started using facial recognition instead of boarding passes

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This sounds pretty insane indeed. How much should we be concerned about that? The gvt already has our image data, and knows our moves anyway right? Even without facial recognition, IDs and passports are asked when you travel, so the documentation of your travels already exists I assume?

Re: JetBlue has started using facial recognition instead of boarding passes

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post #2

This sounds pretty insane indeed. How much should we be concerned about that? The gvt already has our image data, and knows our moves anyway right? Even without facial recognition, IDs and passports are asked when you travel, so the documentation of your travels already exists I assume?

We should be very concerned, because this is obviously testing the waters before rolling out ubiquitous facial recognition. I honestly and earnestly believe that use of facial recognition technology should be banned in all its forms. The applications are limited and the downsides are massive.

Re: JetBlue has started using facial recognition instead of boarding passes

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post #2

This sounds pretty insane indeed. How much should we be concerned about that? The gvt already has our image data, and knows our moves anyway right? Even without facial recognition, IDs and passports are asked when you travel, so the documentation of your travels already exists I assume?

For anyone without a private jet maybe. Does anyone seriously think the FAANG corporate boards will ever in their lives have to undergo this? If the feds wish to be paparazzi, then we should all give them something to really behold.

Re: JetBlue has started using facial recognition instead of boarding passes

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I think this is being blown a bit out of proportion. The government definitely has your passport photo in a database. And since this facial recognition is happening only at boarding gates of international flights, it’s totally plausible that CBP has an isolated system, where Jetblue operates the device but doesn’t get any of the data.

Re: JetBlue has started using facial recognition instead of boarding passes

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post #2

This sounds pretty insane indeed. How much should we be concerned about that? The gvt already has our image data, and knows our moves anyway right? Even without facial recognition, IDs and passports are asked when you travel, so the documentation of your travels already exists I assume?

As long as the biometric data is held only by a government agency, and not shared with the airline, I don't have any issue with this. If this is implemented correctly, the airline should only get a response saying who the passenger is, or an error if they aren't recognised or aren't on the manifest for this flight.

Passports already store biometric data, which I assume is also stored in some government database when you have it issued, so I don't see what's wrong with using that for something useful.

Re: JetBlue has started using facial recognition instead of boarding passes

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post #3
post #2

This sounds pretty insane indeed. How much should we be concerned about that? The gvt already has our image data, and knows our moves anyway right? Even without facial recognition, IDs and passports are asked when you travel, so the documentation of your travels already exists I assume?

We should be very concerned, because this is obviously testing the waters before rolling out ubiquitous facial recognition. I honestly and earnestly believe that use of facial recognition technology should be banned in all its forms. The applications are limited and the downsides are massive.

Could you please elaborate on the downsides? Gov't has your data since you were born, complete with your photos, IDs, you name it. What makes you think it's any different now?

Re: JetBlue has started using facial recognition instead of boarding passes

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post #2

This sounds pretty insane indeed. How much should we be concerned about that? The gvt already has our image data, and knows our moves anyway right? Even without facial recognition, IDs and passports are asked when you travel, so the documentation of your travels already exists I assume?

We should be very concerned, because this is obviously testing the waters before rolling out ubiquitous facial recognition. I honestly and earnestly believe that use of facial recognition technology should be banned in all its forms. The applications are limited and the downsides are massive.

In this particular case, the application of facial recognition improves airport security (against forged passports, sloppy security personnel, ...) while not probably requiring any additional information than what would already be provided by passports with biometric data.

In my opinion, this is one of the few applications where it actually makes sense.

Re: JetBlue has started using facial recognition instead of boarding passes

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post #2

This sounds pretty insane indeed. How much should we be concerned about that? The gvt already has our image data, and knows our moves anyway right? Even without facial recognition, IDs and passports are asked when you travel, so the documentation of your travels already exists I assume?

As long as the biometric data is held only by a government agency, and not shared with the airline, I don't have any issue with this. If this is implemented correctly, the airline should only get a response saying who the passenger is, or an error if they aren't recognised or aren't on the manifest for this flight. Passports already store biometric data, which I assume is also stored in some government database when…

Just as a note you still remember Trump is head of a large govt agency ? So is Putin and Kim Jong Un...

If you feel safe with those folks driving the direction govts are headed ... well..

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