CIA Offers Proof Huawei Has Been Funded by China's Military and Intelligence
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#2Sounds like another WMD show, I'll get the popcorn.
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#3And CIA itself funds dozens of american tech companies ? Point being ? If USA does it, it is love, if anyone else does it it is rape ?
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#4A country with 1.4 billion people and a centralist governance stratagem that allowed them to essentially leapfrog from telex to become the world's largest internet population and the world center for mobile payment penetration through government stimulation and investment. Now the CIA "reveals" that branches of the government had a relationship with the single most advanced telecom equipment manufacturer over the period. I would be more surprised if they didn't. Anyway, thanks to brave individuals we've heard a lot about US government methods ... this is a case of pot / kettle / black... "now give me my budget!".
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#5Heh, the CIA funded Facebook via In-Q-Tel
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#6A country with 1.4 billion people and a centralist governance stratagem that allowed them to essentially leapfrog from telex to become the world's largest internet population and the world center for mobile payment penetration through government stimulation and investment. Now the CIA "reveals" that branches of the government had a relationship with the single most advanced telecom equipment manufacturer over the per…
Does it make a difference if the pot is calling the kettle black here? Even if the US admitted it, that would strengthen the argument.
“We know it’s a national security threat, because we do it”.
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#7A country with 1.4 billion people and a centralist governance stratagem that allowed them to essentially leapfrog from telex to become the world's largest internet population and the world center for mobile payment penetration through government stimulation and investment. Now the CIA "reveals" that branches of the government had a relationship with the single most advanced telecom equipment manufacturer over the per…
Does it make a difference if the pot is calling the kettle black here? Even if the US admitted it, that would strengthen the argument. “We know it’s a national security threat, because we do it”.
There's a weird moral element to these discussions though. Lots of people think this is "wrong," or that the CIA is accusing the Chinese intelligence services of doing something wrong, whereas other people admit that all countries play the game and simply are showing this as a legitimate threat. That confusion between morality and cold threat analysis confounds a lot of national security discussions.
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#8Couldn't Huawei debunk the allegations of having backdoors by just releasing all source code of its 5G equipment, along with a verifiable build? It wouldn't even have to be licensed as open source, just available for security reviews.
The CIA could still claim that Huawei is hiding backdoors in microcode, or even in the ethernet connectors, but it would greatly weaken their credibility.
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does it make a difference if the pot is calling the kettle black here? Even if the US admitted it, that would strengthen the argument. “We know it’s a national security threat, because we do it”.
There's a weird moral element to these discussions though. Lots of people think this is "wrong," or that the CIA is accusing the Chinese intelligence services of doing something wrong, whereas other people admit that all countries play the game and simply are showing this as a legitimate threat. That confusion between morality and cold threat analysis confounds a lot of national security discussions.
> simply are showing this as a legitimate threat
The issue is with the perspective, China is certainty a "legitimate threat" to the US, at least from a technological perspective, the problem is that China IS NOT a threat to the rest of the world or at least not in the same degree it is to the hegemonic power of the US, meanwhile the US indeed IS a technological and military threat to countries around the globe, so wherever the US and its agencies gaslight about China being a threat, it is always too funny, when you remember that the US has all sorts of military bases, drones subs and spy satellites deployed, not to mention it is already spying digitally on the entire planet (this conversation included ofc)
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#10Sounds like another WMD show, I'll get the popcorn.
Indeed. There is a history of only the answers the politicians want to hear being presented, and doubts and counter arguments being swept under the carpet. It's propaganda unless a reputable source can corroborate it.