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Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Darwin Mail seems to struggle with nested labels - https://imgur.com/a/w7PzoY3

To be productive on GMail, I have tons of filters, labels, and use the inbox as my "todo" pile. Once something is done, its filed into is respective label. However, since I have nested labels to divide organizations, platforms, and classes by semester, Darwin doesn't organize them well. Here is a side by side comparison to GMail - https://imgur.com/a/W6IqUrW

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Hello HN I’m Joey, the maker of Darwin Mail. — Darwin Mail aims to help you be your most productive when dealing with emails & todos. Problem Inbox by Google was one of the best products they ever made. And then they shut it down. Solution Introducing Darwin Mail, which aims to replace and become better than Google Inbox ever was. Features - Snoozing, Reminders, Dark Mode, Undo Send, Custom Backgrounds, Templates, &…

My girlfriend (who works at Google!) really misses Inbox and specifically the "stacks" feature (whatever that was -- I was not a user myself). She'd easily pay for premium for that specific feature. Apparently it's a common complaint in her group. I didn't see this on your list: is it planned?

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure thing. Here's some more: You can open any number of the menu options and the previous ones don't close. https://i.imgur.com/NxKVk6W.png Additionally, there doesn't appear to be an exit icon on any of them, though escape works. -- Accessing my spam folder freezes the app and results in the following stack trace: https://i.imgur.com/HkNbH67.png The message in the thread in question doesn't have a from attribute. -…

Wow wow WOWW! This is the kind of feedback I really really love. You took your time writing this. You went into perfect detail. You are really really helping, Sarge, thank you a million times over. This is amazing. Thank you. I have noted everything you said and will work on those in the coming days. Thank you so so much.

No problemo. I'll go into a deeper dive tomorrow; would it be better to send an email to report any further bugs I find?

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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post #74

>We take your privacy seriously. I'm sure you do, but please please please -- don't use this cliché. It's superficial and off-putting. Better explain specifically what you do for it. And then let us decide if you take our privacy seriously or not.

You are so right! Thank you for your feedback.

Changed it to "Your privacy is important. Darwin will never record, distribute or sell your personal data to any third parties."

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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I tried to test it, but I literally don't feel comfortable giving somebody full access to my email. I don't know your practices, security protocols, etc. I'd feel way more comfortable if this would be an app or a browser add-on that would handle everything locally, without sharing the access token with your servers.

Part 3: How does DarwimMail actually work? So what happens exactly is: The user logs into DarwinMail.app, DarwinMail makes a login request to Google's servers, Google logs the user in, DarwinMail asks for the users emails at which point this data is rendered in the user's browser. None of this email data is stored on DarwinMail's servers. There is no need! Think of all the space it would take up and the time that wou…

Saying that none of the "email data" is stored on your servers is a common way mail clients deflect from the real truth that people are interested in. Our email data traverses through your servers and is stored in memory is it not?

Additionally you have our access tokens correct? With those you have effective access to all of our email data. They are effectively a password. Worse actually since they bypass 2FA. If you leak those on accident or decide to use one from your home PC, you have access to all of our email data.

The statement "None of this email data is stored on DarwinMail's servers" remains technically true, but does not address the real scope security issue most users are worried about.

DarwinMail looks amazing and I'd love to use it, but until these questions above are answered or obviated via open-sourcing it, I don't think many users will be comfortable. My company admin policy explicitly denies your app for these reasons by the way:

"Error: admin_policy_enforced

Access to your account data is restricted by policies within your organization. Please contact administrator for more information."

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No no anything that's not completely obvious to everyone who visits needs to be changed. Thank you for your feedback. I've thought about what you said (albeit very quickly) and made changes to the homepage https://www.darwinmail.app/index.php The homepage subtitle: "Your Google Inbox replacement: reach new levels of productivity." And a below the hero image: "An evolutionary way to work with your emails." - I think I…

Beautiful interface. Seriously. This type of design opens me up to Material as Ive been pretty adverse to it until now. Material with rounded edges and transparency. Looks clean. What tech did you use on the frontend? Im on ipad so I cant inspect your dom ️

Thank you so much for the positive vibes! I'm so happy to hear that :)

It's vanilla JS! Enhanced with libraries such as jQuery, Materialize, XSS, bootstrap, moment, less etc :)

Does she look well on the iPad? ;)

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

#87
post #81

Darwin Mail seems to struggle with nested labels - https://imgur.com/a/w7PzoY3 To be productive on GMail, I have tons of filters, labels, and use the inbox as my "todo" pile. Once something is done, its filed into is respective label. However, since I have nested labels to divide organizations, platforms, and classes by semester, Darwin doesn't organize them well. Here is a side by side comparison to GMail - https://…

Nested Labels is a fantastic idea!

Thank you so so much for your feedback. It's really not a difficult feature at all. Thank you for suggesting it.

I can completely see your use case also, it is a must.

I have added nested labels to the backlog and will work on it asap :)

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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post #82

Hello HN I’m Joey, the maker of Darwin Mail. — Darwin Mail aims to help you be your most productive when dealing with emails & todos. Problem Inbox by Google was one of the best products they ever made. And then they shut it down. Solution Introducing Darwin Mail, which aims to replace and become better than Google Inbox ever was. Features - Snoozing, Reminders, Dark Mode, Undo Send, Custom Backgrounds, Templates, &…

My girlfriend (who works at Google!) really misses Inbox and specifically the "stacks" feature (whatever that was -- I was not a user myself). She'd easily pay for premium for that specific feature. Apparently it's a common complaint in her group. I didn't see this on your list: is it planned?

That's perfect feedback! Straight from the heart of Google :D ha ha. I think you are referring to bundles? That is most certainly a must as so many people have requested it today.

Thank you for your comment. It made me smile! :)

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

#89
I really like text-only dense interfaces such as what Sourcehut.org is doing with Git repos.

I would love to see this type of minimal interface for email - while others may like background images and such, I prefer text-only sense UI with minimal bloat for speed!

Seriously though, DarwinMail is impressive! Could you tell us if custom domains are supported?

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

#90
post #74

>We take your privacy seriously. I'm sure you do, but please please please -- don't use this cliché. It's superficial and off-putting. Better explain specifically what you do for it. And then let us decide if you take our privacy seriously or not.

You are so right! Thank you for your feedback. Changed it to "Your privacy is important. Darwin will never record, distribute or sell your personal data to any third parties."

Question I have: do you need to actually collect this information at all?

I appreciate the no share, but if a service never collects it to begin with then it’s never an issue including if you get hacked for instance.

I’m curious not a judgement.

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