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Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Vinnl wrote: post #62
DarwinMailApp wrote: post #9

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You are spot on! Thanks for helping a fellow hacker out ;) Do you think the price point is fair?

I'm unfortunately a little hesitant to give a new and unproven player access to all my email, so I'm a bit hesitant to try it right now - sorry. That said, I think the pricing is reasonable. I might suggest a free trial of the pro features for people who e.g. already enter their credit card details (to lower the barrier of converting to a paid account later), or who refer others. One thing that I'd also like the land…

No problem at all. It's your Gmail account and you have the right to do with it whatever you want.

In time and after much improvements I hope to earn your trust.

A free trial is a good idea. I will set that up soon.

Also, a referral scheme has been suggested and is something I would love to work on soon too.

I am in the process of upgrading the FAQs and will add a section for where the reminders are stored. It's quite simple really, they are stored in your browsers local storage.

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by DarwinMailApp »

shortformblog wrote: post #69
DarwinMailApp wrote: post #56

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First off thank you soo so much for your amazing feedback! Secondly, WOW. Supporting plugins is such a spectacular idea! It would open up a world of possibilities! Would they be Chrome plugins or plugins for things like Salesforce, Teamwork, GitHub, Slack etc? I will add in something to remove the background entirely and also allow selection of a flat/gradient/colour asap. Custom fonts/keyboard shortcuts are such fan…

Hey, glad you liked my ideas! I'm thinking Chrome/Firefox plugins in particular. I think you have some built-in functionality that covers some of the use cases but I think that one of the great things about Inbox was that it was largely compatible with existing Gmail plugins. Anyway, best of luck! I'll be keeping an eye on this.

Fantastic!

I will Roger that :) Chrome and Firefox plugins open up such a world of possibilities :)

Thank you for the suggestion!

Feel free to follow me to keep up to date! https://twitter.com/joeytawadrous

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by teleclimber »

DarwinMailApp wrote: post #58
teleclimber wrote: post #54

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Is your product open source? Because for this kind of thing it's really hard to trust unless it's open and self-hostable. Even if you say you don't need to store emails, there is still a chance of leaks via logging systems or simply programmer errors, or some caching layer. It's likely your security protocols aren't as robust as Google's. (You mention "https" as the primary reason this is secure. Much wow.) Given the…

It's not open source at the moment no. You make a very good point, and I see where you are coming from. I personally have a hard time trusting other products with my data too. That's why I'm trying to be as transparent as possible with DarwinMail. If I were to make the product open source, would you consider using it then?

Yes, if you make it Open Source and possible to self-host it goes from DOA to definitely possible. Would have to explore more, like how it's written, the community around it, etc... before I really commit.

Hopefully you can still make a living. I suspect "open source + commercially hosted" is a good model for something like this?

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by js2 »

DarwinMailApp wrote: post #17
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #12

Maybe it's obvious to others but I didn't really know what you were selling until the first FAQ. Maybe you need a strapline something like "a new way to work with your Google Mail". I thought it was perhaps an independent MUA app (and assumed it was going to be Mac only, because of the name). When I first arrived on the page I clicked your first call to action button, which takes one to a Google login, but backed out…

No no anything that's not completely obvious to everyone who visits needs to be changed. Thank you for your feedback. I've thought about what you said (albeit very quickly) and made changes to the homepage https://www.darwinmail.app/index.php The homepage subtitle: "Your Google Inbox replacement: reach new levels of productivity." And a below the hero image: "An evolutionary way to work with your emails." - I think I…

Something like:

Darwin Mail: Gmail Evolved

Darwin Mail is a better interface to the gmail account you already have:

- Restores Google Inbox features

- ....

Aside, do you need to add any trademark notices?

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by DarwinMailApp »

SargeZT wrote: post #60
DarwinMailApp wrote: post #27

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Thank you so so much for your suggestion! I also love that you were straight in with the exact fix! Thanks, Sarge! PS: I've made that change and it's live on https://www.darwinmail.app (threadAPI & labelsAPI) ;) If you have any more, let me know!

Sure thing. Here's some more: You can open any number of the menu options and the previous ones don't close. https://i.imgur.com/NxKVk6W.png Additionally, there doesn't appear to be an exit icon on any of them, though escape works. -- Accessing my spam folder freezes the app and results in the following stack trace: https://i.imgur.com/HkNbH67.png The message in the thread in question doesn't have a from attribute. -…

Wow wow WOWW!

This is the kind of feedback I really really love.

You took your time writing this. You went into perfect detail. You are really really helping, Sarge, thank you a million times over.

This is amazing. Thank you.

I have noted everything you said and will work on those in the coming days.

Thank you so so much.

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by uniformlyrandom »

DarwinMailApp wrote: post #58
teleclimber wrote: post #54

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Is your product open source? Because for this kind of thing it's really hard to trust unless it's open and self-hostable. Even if you say you don't need to store emails, there is still a chance of leaks via logging systems or simply programmer errors, or some caching layer. It's likely your security protocols aren't as robust as Google's. (You mention "https" as the primary reason this is secure. Much wow.) Given the…

It's not open source at the moment no. You make a very good point, and I see where you are coming from. I personally have a hard time trusting other products with my data too. That's why I'm trying to be as transparent as possible with DarwinMail. If I were to make the product open source, would you consider using it then?

That was my biggest concern as well. I am sure you do not do that, it it would have been so easy to funnel my data (or metadata) to your servers.

Open-sourcing and authenticating the client code would resolve this issue for me.

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by hiccuphippo »

Waterluvian wrote: post #34
frolig wrote: post #29

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... yes, so?

It's fascinating. So much creative breadth enabled by modern web and we've converted quite well one the one format for selling a new product or idea. Not necessarily bad. I'm excited to see how this diverges again.

It's easy to talk to people about something if you name it. Same as header and footer, no?

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by johnwheeler »

DarwinMailApp wrote: post #17
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #12

Maybe it's obvious to others but I didn't really know what you were selling until the first FAQ. Maybe you need a strapline something like "a new way to work with your Google Mail". I thought it was perhaps an independent MUA app (and assumed it was going to be Mac only, because of the name). When I first arrived on the page I clicked your first call to action button, which takes one to a Google login, but backed out…

No no anything that's not completely obvious to everyone who visits needs to be changed. Thank you for your feedback. I've thought about what you said (albeit very quickly) and made changes to the homepage https://www.darwinmail.app/index.php The homepage subtitle: "Your Google Inbox replacement: reach new levels of productivity." And a below the hero image: "An evolutionary way to work with your emails." - I think I…

Beautiful interface. Seriously. This type of design opens me up to Material as Ive been pretty adverse to it until now. Material with rounded edges and transparency. Looks clean.

What tech did you use on the frontend? Im on ipad so I cant inspect your dom ️

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