Here Comes The Wetware
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Here Comes The Wetware
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#2Maybe I've been living in a cave but I had no idea that tech like NeuroSky and emotive was so cheaply available. Anyone with experience on which one is better?
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#3Maybe I've been living in a cave but I had no idea that tech like NeuroSky and emotive was so cheaply available. Anyone with experience on which one is better?
I don't have either, but I'd go with Emotiv... theirs has more sensors.
Recommended watching: http://www.ted.com/talks/tan_le_a_headset_that_reads_your_br...
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#4A major problem here isn't just the interface technology, but that we have such a poor understanding of how the brain works (my girlfriend is working on her PhD in Neuroscience and I hear about this almost daily). Consequently, our interfaces will be crude and clunky at best for a long time.
We've barely got the faintest ideas of how to measure some things that would seem really basic. Memory? Perception? Forget it. When using one of these you're basically trying to train your brain to stimulate huge areas to try to get some readout. It happens that we aren't great at this. Even playing a game as basic as Pong is very hard with this type of interface, and it isn't as if we're going to get significantly better at this anytime soon.
Its about as graceful as trying to make your entire leg smash forward in order to press a small delicate button. We can hit things, but when you have lots of small delicate buttons, the resolution isn't going to get much better since we're still smashing blindly.
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#5Maybe I've been living in a cave but I had no idea that tech like NeuroSky and emotive was so cheaply available. Anyone with experience on which one is better?
I can't speak for the NeuroSky, but I reverse-engineered the protocol and crypto used for the Emotiv to create the open source Emokit ( https://github.com/daeken/Emokit ) a couple months back. While no one has really done anything with it yet, it opens up some fun stuff. The Emotiv has the benefit of more sensors, and it isn't much more expensive. I'd love to see someone do something really cool with it.
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#6I'd love to play with one of these and just watch the inputs, during various mind states. Resting, relaxing, watching tv, playing music, listening to music, drunk, high, bored, focused, reading, panic etc, etc. I don't know what I would do with the data, probably end up posting it online see if someone can do something with it.
Idk, I feel like with practice you could get pretty good at using it. But here it has a $300 price tag, looks like I will be waiting for someone else to get after those ideas.
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#7Maybe I've been living in a cave but I had no idea that tech like NeuroSky and emotive was so cheaply available. Anyone with experience on which one is better?
I can't speak for the NeuroSky, but I reverse-engineered the protocol and crypto used for the Emotiv to create the open source Emokit ( https://github.com/daeken/Emokit ) a couple months back. While no one has really done anything with it yet, it opens up some fun stuff. The Emotiv has the benefit of more sensors, and it isn't much more expensive. I'd love to see someone do something really cool with it.
I just found that 20 minutes ago and was so excited that I ordered an Emotiv right away. Great to see that you're an HN user, I'm looking forward to playing with the Python library.
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#8Maybe I've been living in a cave but I had no idea that tech like NeuroSky and emotive was so cheaply available. Anyone with experience on which one is better?
I can't speak for the NeuroSky, but I reverse-engineered the protocol and crypto used for the Emotiv to create the open source Emokit ( https://github.com/daeken/Emokit ) a couple months back. While no one has really done anything with it yet, it opens up some fun stuff. The Emotiv has the benefit of more sensors, and it isn't much more expensive. I'd love to see someone do something really cool with it.
Nice! Does this mean that Emotiv doesn't have a developer-friendly API? NeuroSky seems to really emphasize this.
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can't speak for the NeuroSky, but I reverse-engineered the protocol and crypto used for the Emotiv to create the open source Emokit ( https://github.com/daeken/Emokit ) a couple months back. While no one has really done anything with it yet, it opens up some fun stuff. The Emotiv has the benefit of more sensors, and it isn't much more expensive. I'd love to see someone do something really cool with it.
Nice! Does this mean that Emotiv doesn't have a developer-friendly API? NeuroSky seems to really emphasize this.
1) Their API is Windows-only (they have Linux support in beta, though) and is expensive as hell, and 2) The API to get raw access to the EEG data is $750 bare minimum. Silly, considering the consumer and developer headsets are identical, outside of the AES key used.
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#10Maybe I've been living in a cave but I had no idea that tech like NeuroSky and emotive was so cheaply available. Anyone with experience on which one is better?
I can't speak for the NeuroSky, but I reverse-engineered the protocol and crypto used for the Emotiv to create the open source Emokit ( https://github.com/daeken/Emokit ) a couple months back. While no one has really done anything with it yet, it opens up some fun stuff. The Emotiv has the benefit of more sensors, and it isn't much more expensive. I'd love to see someone do something really cool with it.
Do you have a writeup anywhere detailing your progress and/or what is capable using the api you have created so far? I'm super interested in this I just want a little more to go on than is in the readme.
For example, it's not even clear to me if I need to buy the regular headset (299) or developer headset (500)