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Former student destroys 59 university computers using USB Killer device

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Re: Former student destroys 59 university computers using USB Killer device

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Oh dear god, why did you connect your iMac’s Ethernet port to mains? Did you expect it to survive?! The fact that Ethernet functions the same with a voltage bias across the leads is exploited for PoE — power over Ethernet.

> Oh dear god, why did you connect your iMac’s Ethernet port to mains? Because I was 15 and bored.

Wouldn't you be more bored if you found yourself without an iMac?

Re: Former student destroys 59 university computers using USB Killer device

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Going to throw out a guess and say it's because selling you an item after you called it a bong is admitting that it's indeed a bong.

Ah, that makes sense, question answered. My second question is that if bongs and water pipes are the same thing, why does the law distinguish their purpose by their name? It seems like given " I want to buy a water pipe for smoking the marijuana " and " I want a bong to smoke tobacco ", the second should be legal to request, not both.

intent determines if a thing is illegal. If you intend to use that bong for weed it’s pariphinalia and a felony, if you intend to use it for sheesha it’s fine.

if you intend to use that power tool or crowbar to break into a house it’s “possession of burgular tools” and a felony, if you’re a contractor there to install some drywall it’s not.

Re: Former student destroys 59 university computers using USB Killer device

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Actively using it to harm others is different than just creating it.

Creating it and selling it is an obvious attempt to profit from the custom of those who wish to use it to actively harm others. There's literally no other reason for anybody to buy an "anonymous" one over a standard one which says what it does on the stick, and yet they're charging $5 more for the anonymous one...

It's a curiosity item. I would buy an anonymous one if they were $30 or less. It's interesting to have around, a conversation piece. The anonymous one increases the interest, because it better demonstrates the danger, the precariousness.

Re: Former student destroys 59 university computers using USB Killer device

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I vaguely recall the argument (maybe buried in the USBKill site) that manufacturers could ~easily limit maximum voltage across the data lines. Maybe using a resettable fuse? I know that Raspberry Pi limit USB input voltage to ~5V, for example.

Raspberry Pi limits the input voltage with a Zener diode across the input. In a Zener used this way, the current flow through the diode varies with the voltage difference between the input and the output - so with enough voltage input you can still make it fail, as you can exceed the max power dissipation of the diode and then it will burn - and after that, your circuit is not protected anymore.

I can confirm that you can indeed destroy an RPI0 by accidentally connecting a power supply to the USB port while another power supply is connected to the power supply port.

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The innocuous use of TV-B-Gone devices was to shut off at once all TV sets at malls; it was rather a prank than a destructive act, with the added benefit of getting some peace.

Was there a TV-come-on to turn on the mall TVs in the morning?

You need the TV-B-ON version

Re: Former student destroys 59 university computers using USB Killer device

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I am looking at https://usbkill.com/ . What is the purpose of the device? The manufacturer calls it an "ESD tester" yet there is an "anonymous" version available: https://usbkill.com/products/usb-killer-v3?variant=447760856...

Maybe could be handy to distroy terminator robots and inactivate war weapons in the future. Who knows?

One thing is certain, they will have a USB port.

Re: Former student destroys 59 university computers using USB Killer device

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Classic was inserting an old 16k DRAM backwards. Hmm... something smells hot... touch touch touch sound of screaming

Or inverting the two halves of the AT power connector

Always a bit terrifying powering up the MB for the first time.

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Actually there is theft, for example, I watched a TV program about shoplifting and they caught several people, like a company of school girls or an old woman. The bicyles must be registered in Tokyo if I remember correctly. Also, they have unmanned selling stalls, usually in the countryside, where farmers sell fruits and vegetables [1] [1] http://abritishprofinjapan.blogspot.com/2017/07/unmanned-veg...

There's an interesting reason for old people getting caught shoplifting in Japan. One of the many articles covering that: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47197417

Perverse incentives at work. If the jail cells in Japan were anything like Rikers, this wouldn't be a thing. Conversely, societal institutions for the elderly could also work.

Re: Former student destroys 59 university computers using USB Killer device

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I am looking at https://usbkill.com/ . What is the purpose of the device? The manufacturer calls it an "ESD tester" yet there is an "anonymous" version available: https://usbkill.com/products/usb-killer-v3?variant=447760856...

> Is the device safe? > The USB Kill and the USB Kill Testing Shield are safe to use. Both devices have been manufactured, tested and certified as CE Approved. Test in complete confidence. This device that is designed to destroy computers is perfectly safe to use ... I don't know what to say to that.

I kinda doubt that. If you unplug it while in use and stick a key into the USB plug, you might get a painful surprise...

Re: Former student destroys 59 university computers using USB Killer device

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Speaking of power banks, what would happen if you plugged this device directly to one?

most power banks don't have the data lines, and as far as I see this device uses the data lines to destroy the host. So I'll guess nothing would happen.

You could design one which did destruction via the power lines if you wanted to.

That's much harder though because power lines tend to have big-ish capacitors on them.

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