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Austrian government seeks to eliminate internet anonymity, with severe penalties

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Re: Austrian government seeks to eliminate internet anonymity, with severe penalties

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You can buy sim cards on amazon from other EU countries.

If it is like in Spain then the non-registered sim cards from other EU countries will simply not work if I remember correctly. However I have heard that in Spain you could anyway buy unregistered sim cards from certain stores if you asked around and paid a bit more.

My non-registered Dutch t-mobile SIM worked fine in Spain a couple of weeks ago.

Re: Austrian government seeks to eliminate internet anonymity, with severe penalties

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post #98

so what will be the next 'internet' ?

Peer to peer connections are increasingly looking like a solution to me, google,apple all have research ongoing on how to have private intranets between mobiles in an area.ipfs could be extended for such usecases too. couple that with self hosted(or maybe companies do it for you for a fee) mobile base stations to extend the range of that intranet for coverage that is actually free of government snooping/supervision w…

peer to peer connections flow over infrastructure provided by companies who provide you, the internet. good luck to have that up and running as 'next internet'. ... it's something you do on the current internet :S

Re: Austrian government seeks to eliminate internet anonymity, with severe penalties

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Describing the current government in Austria as center-right is a bit ridiculous (to say nothing of putting words like centrist or left anywhere near descriptions of that government). Austrian politics have been moving further and further to the right and the FPÖ (junior coalition partner) is a xenophobic far-right party with authoritarian streaks. I’m really not comfortable in describing a government where such a pa…

I think the wrong words were chosen by the parent. For many decades politics in Europe were dominated by traditional globalist governments, which I would describe as "centrist". For many people those governments are failing and voters are moving to the left and the right, depending on the country of course. Centrist governments are trying to use "hate speech" laws as a way of curbing their loss of control of the medi…

As others have pointed out, the austrian government is populist right/far-right. This is not a law by centrist parties, but by right-wing authoritarian.

Re: Austrian government seeks to eliminate internet anonymity, with severe penalties

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There was a point made where an opposing lawmaker said that foreign companies like Facebook would not bother to comply. Ha! They will all love to have your real name and address confirmed, they will be more than happy to oblige. It would make many things easier, and allow them to monetize you much better. So strange, this seems to be the exact opposite of the trend in the USA where the public desire is moving towards…

I think they won't comply because it puts them into an advantegeous position compared to local sites who will have to do all this paperwork.

Re: Austrian government seeks to eliminate internet anonymity, with severe penalties

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post #98

so what will be the next 'internet' ?

Peer to peer connections are increasingly looking like a solution to me, google,apple all have research ongoing on how to have private intranets between mobiles in an area.ipfs could be extended for such usecases too. couple that with self hosted(or maybe companies do it for you for a fee) mobile base stations to extend the range of that intranet for coverage that is actually free of government snooping/supervision w…

>of course they could try and ban that but unless you actually train cops to roam around with wifi packet sniffers i doubt it would be very enforceable.

That's exactly what Soviet police would do 50 years ago to catch "illegal" radio stations, to the point that the rebels eventually put it into a balloon, so there is precedence

Re: Austrian government seeks to eliminate internet anonymity, with severe penalties

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No, that's just your opinion. The OVP is center-right, the FPO is right wing/populistic.

The OeVP current platform is to curb rights of immigrants, to reduce social support systems, lowers corporate tax rates, introduces laws to restrict social housing to non immigrants, reduces child support payments for children in other EU countries, continues the policy on border controls in Schengen, restricts skilled immigration, sets a maximum limit of 1.5 euro per hour income for asylum seekers when doing social…

just noting that the 'center' you're speaking of is quite left by international standards

Re: Austrian government seeks to eliminate internet anonymity, with severe penalties

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> Could anyone shed some light on which problem this is supposed to solve exactly and what triggered it in the first place in Austria right now? Existing hate-speech legislation allows persecution of users already, but in some cases the offenders hide too well or Facebook does not cooperate with authorities. Online newspaper forums are also now full of professionally organized dirt campaigns, sometimes tolerated by l…

Isn't it enough just to remove those comments?

No, for example when there are death threats or defamation of well-known people that goes viral.

Re: Austrian government seeks to eliminate internet anonymity, with severe penalties

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Be still my beating heart. I misread this as for Australia and while I wouldn't put this past the current right-wing government they are coming into an election. But it's for Austria.....so....while I'm not affected I'm still annoyed.

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Re: Austrian government seeks to eliminate internet anonymity, with severe penalties

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Typically trolls don’t have to sound aggressive. They can wander in, throw a grenade into a discussion, and then act innocent of the carnage.

That behaviour is not desirable in any space online. That’s what makes it so good here the moderation is pretty good. But is this a problem to be solved at the state level?

It is not a problem. I do like moderation if I want to stay on topic. I also like the bad stuff. As long as there is room for both, I am happy. Enforcing identification isn't a realistic option.
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