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Austrian government seeks to eliminate internet anonymity, with severe penalties

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Re: Austrian government seeks to eliminate internet anonymity, with severe penalties

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it won't stop people getting multiple sim cards and registering those under different names

To get a sim card (even prepaid) in Austria you need to provide a valid ID/passport. If it's not an Austrian/German/Swiss ID you will need to go in person to activate your sim card. This would make it really difficult for someone to manage a few accounts.

How is homeless situation in Austria? Thats how you get clean untraceable pre registered cards.

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The OeVP current platform is to curb rights of immigrants, to reduce social support systems, lowers corporate tax rates, introduces laws to restrict social housing to non immigrants, reduces child support payments for children in other EU countries, continues the policy on border controls in Schengen, restricts skilled immigration, sets a maximum limit of 1.5 euro per hour income for asylum seekers when doing social…

But do the ÖVP actually do that? I'm Spanish and I voted for a "conservative" government this last election, where they promised to do, well, stuff I expected from a conservative party, and they didn't do shit. That's why I call them "centrist". They say they are conservatives, but they don't conserve anything.

I only enumerated things they put into law out they proposed or supported from the start.

The things the FPOe did was getting rid of the smoking ban, raising the speed limits to 140, renaming the immigration centers to “departure centers”, proposals to cut the funding of the public broadcaster.

Together they converted the country in record time into a dystopian place. Even putting childhood education back into former times by reintroducing marks for primary schoolers and minimum requirements that can cause children under 10 to have to repeat a class.

They are now both also starting to talk about rolling back abortion rights.

Re: Austrian government seeks to eliminate internet anonymity, with severe penalties

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It doesn't matter, actually. You as a user can use a VPN but the company based in Austria will have to implement this.

I recently run into this jewel: https://www.gate.io/page/contacts Mail: PO Box 2804, Grand Cayman KY1-1112 , Cayman Island. I don't think anybody involved with the site has ever been to Grand Cayman. Apparently, they process 10 BTC/USDT transactions per minute; and that is just one of the hundred trading pairs. Who can claim jurisdiction over that site? Maybe Grand Cayman, but when push comes to shove, I suspect that…

Are they based in Austria?

Re: Austrian government seeks to eliminate internet anonymity, with severe penalties

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Could anyone shed some light on which problem this is supposed to solve exactly and what triggered it in the first place in Austria right now? Have there been any issues caused by anonymous posts recently? Maybe I'm just living under a rock, but my feeling was that the main issues we're currently facing stem from political distortion caused by populism misusing platform mechanisms to spread misinformation. I don't se…

This was triggered by a defamation lawsuit where a former female MP was being harrassed via facebook, made the harassement public via twitter, and subsequently sued by the owner of the facebook account. She lost the lawsuit and was ordered to pay damages. The court found that the owner of the facebook account is not necessarily the harasser, so making the harassement public is libel. Of course this case was only a we…

Are civil cases not based on preponderance of evidence in Austria? It seem like a fuck up of the court than a problem of internet anonymity.

Re: Austrian government seeks to eliminate internet anonymity, with severe penalties

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It is surprising. Even here, in Russia, we don't have such laws working yet. And I wonder, what Austrian authorities are going to do with foreign platforms like Telegram, which are unlikely to comply? Russian government has been trying to block Telegram using DPI for a year and didn't succeed.

What about Twitter? Reddit?

> In addition, web platforms would be required to appoint a liaison in Austria who would be responsible for making information about platform users available if it becomes necessary. If this person does not ensure that the regulation is followed, he or she could be punished with a fine of up to 100,000 euros.

This will just put foreign platforms, who will ignore the law, into an advantageous position compared to local platforms. Users might switch to foreign platforms that don't require identification.

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Roaming costs are basically non-existant these days in the EU. For me it is cheaper to use internet through roaming than buying local plan.

> Roaming costs are basically non-existant these days in the EU. Data plans can be limited for other countries, even within the EU (and frequently are), i.e. if your prepaid contract allows 5GB monthly data transfer for free, the provider might limit this to 500MB for roaming and beyond that limit, you can pay a hefty fee per MB. In general, prepaid cards aren't famous for having a generous data plan...

But in eu it's more like 20euros for 100go/month and 25go of roaming. The main problem is tje provider will close your account/ask you to pay more if you use roaming exclusively

Re: Austrian government seeks to eliminate internet anonymity, with severe penalties

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so what will be the next 'internet' ?

Peer to peer connections are increasingly looking like a solution to me, google,apple all have research ongoing on how to have private intranets between mobiles in an area.ipfs could be extended for such usecases too.

couple that with self hosted(or maybe companies do it for you for a fee) mobile base stations to extend the range of that intranet for coverage that is actually free of government snooping/supervision while simulataneously being truly local and a signboard of things happening in your area.

of course they could try and ban that but unless you actually train cops to roam around with wifi packet sniffers i doubt it would be very enforceable.

Re: Austrian government seeks to eliminate internet anonymity, with severe penalties

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No, that's just your opinion. The OVP is center-right, the FPO is right wing/populistic.

The OeVP current platform is to curb rights of immigrants, to reduce social support systems, lowers corporate tax rates, introduces laws to restrict social housing to non immigrants, reduces child support payments for children in other EU countries, continues the policy on border controls in Schengen, restricts skilled immigration, sets a maximum limit of 1.5 euro per hour income for asylum seekers when doing social…

Destroying the welfare state was done by the SPD in Germany.

Citizen tracking sounds more like what the "communist" party of China would do.

Some decades ago Franz Josef Strauss was considered "right wing". It seems to me that the items you list would have been considered center-right in the 1990s.

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