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Re: People are pooping more than ever on the streets of San Francisco

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Post by ng12 »

henryfjordan wrote: post #14
jcims wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People that shit on the Market St sidewalk in broad daylight are not doing so because they were looking for a restroom and ran out of time. There’s a little more going on.

If you've been told "no, you cannot poop in our bathroom because you are homeless" at every restaurant/business in the city, would you bother looking for a bathroom the next time you had to shit? Why bother trying to have dignity if the world doesn't want to let you have any?

SF has lots of public toilets. They're just unpleasant to use for obvious reasons.

Re: People are pooping more than ever on the streets of San Francisco

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Post by manfredo »

jakevn wrote: post #18
manfredo wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They could have open holes in the ground that connect straight to the sewage system. Maybe add a simple lever to open/close the hole if odor is an issue. Sure it'd lack privacy, but privacy evidently isn't an issue if people are taking dumps on the sidewalk.

If you're not going to give someone a dignified place to relieve themselves, why would they care about using such a thing?

Because it's strictly better than the status quo? Given the choice between taking a crap in public and leaving a turd on the sidewalk vs. taking a crap in public and having it flushed how is the former preferable to the latter? The unfortunately reality is that creating a private space for relieving oneself is regularly abused as other commenters have pointed out. It's an instance of hostile design 1, but one that is evidently necessary.

Its also a form of restroom that is common in many other countries. Such a type of toilet is not new.

1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_architecture

Re: People are pooping more than ever on the streets of San Francisco

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Post by rexpop »

akoumis wrote: post #19
burtonator wrote: post #8

I have a modest proposal to end this problem. There are too many homeless in San Francisco. Additionally, California has too few wolves. I propose that we release wolves into the streets of San Francisco once per month. Only the strong will be able to evade the wolves and the weak and sick will be eaten. This will lower the homeless population will simultaneously helping the wolf population rebound to record numbers.

I don't have enough points to downvote you... this is why people hate techies, you view the displaced as a separate species altogether, they are just like you and your family, likely without the same upbringing and privileges Edit: Thanks guys I understand the proposal is a joke, it's just sick and callous. So all the people riffing on this joke are making nuanced social commentary as well with their analysis of home…

"modest proposals" are inherently tongue-in-cheek. OP is suggesting that current policy is nearly as inhumane.

Re: People are pooping more than ever on the streets of San Francisco

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Post by darpa_escapee »

jcims wrote: post #9
Scoundreller wrote: post #2

Soooo, build bathrooms and make them free (as in beer)?

People that shit on the Market St sidewalk in broad daylight are not doing so because they were looking for a restroom and ran out of time. There’s a little more going on.

I once spent time backpacking and had the opportunity to stop in the city. The amount of people who assumed I was transient, and the way the treated me based on that assumption, was astounding.

I don't see how a homeless person would be able to use an establishment's bathroom more than once without being kicked out. Some places even hired security guards to stand outside of bathrooms and check receipts before allowing you to use them.

Re: People are pooping more than ever on the streets of San Francisco

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Post by jm_l »

akoumis wrote: post #19
burtonator wrote: post #8

I have a modest proposal to end this problem. There are too many homeless in San Francisco. Additionally, California has too few wolves. I propose that we release wolves into the streets of San Francisco once per month. Only the strong will be able to evade the wolves and the weak and sick will be eaten. This will lower the homeless population will simultaneously helping the wolf population rebound to record numbers.

I don't have enough points to downvote you... this is why people hate techies, you view the displaced as a separate species altogether, they are just like you and your family, likely without the same upbringing and privileges Edit: Thanks guys I understand the proposal is a joke, it's just sick and callous. So all the people riffing on this joke are making nuanced social commentary as well with their analysis of home…

This is a sarcastic reference to a famous essay published by Jonathan Swift. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal)

Re: People are pooping more than ever on the streets of San Francisco

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Post by [deleted] »

akoumis wrote: post #19
burtonator wrote: post #8

I have a modest proposal to end this problem. There are too many homeless in San Francisco. Additionally, California has too few wolves. I propose that we release wolves into the streets of San Francisco once per month. Only the strong will be able to evade the wolves and the weak and sick will be eaten. This will lower the homeless population will simultaneously helping the wolf population rebound to record numbers.

I don't have enough points to downvote you... this is why people hate techies, you view the displaced as a separate species altogether, they are just like you and your family, likely without the same upbringing and privileges Edit: Thanks guys I understand the proposal is a joke, it's just sick and callous. So all the people riffing on this joke are making nuanced social commentary as well with their analysis of home…

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Re: People are pooping more than ever on the streets of San Francisco

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Post by akoumis »

rexpop wrote: post #23
akoumis wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have enough points to downvote you... this is why people hate techies, you view the displaced as a separate species altogether, they are just like you and your family, likely without the same upbringing and privileges Edit: Thanks guys I understand the proposal is a joke, it's just sick and callous. So all the people riffing on this joke are making nuanced social commentary as well with their analysis of home…

"modest proposals" are inherently tongue-in-cheek. OP is suggesting that current policy is nearly as inhumane.

You are giving OP benefit of the doubt, certainly the people responding riffing on this "joke" are not viewing the remark with much nuance

Disgusting

Re: People are pooping more than ever on the streets of San Francisco

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Post by swasheck »

malandrew wrote: post #10
burtonator wrote: post #8

I have a modest proposal to end this problem. There are too many homeless in San Francisco. Additionally, California has too few wolves. I propose that we release wolves into the streets of San Francisco once per month. Only the strong will be able to evade the wolves and the weak and sick will be eaten. This will lower the homeless population will simultaneously helping the wolf population rebound to record numbers.

What about wolf poop?

This was my thought. Also, this can’t really be that much more sanitary or clean.

Re: People are pooping more than ever on the streets of San Francisco

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Post by darkpuma »

akoumis wrote: post #27
rexpop wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"modest proposals" are inherently tongue-in-cheek. OP is suggesting that current policy is nearly as inhumane.

You are giving OP benefit of the doubt, certainly the people responding riffing on this "joke" are not viewing the remark with much nuance Disgusting

Swift's essay is commonly assigned reading in American public schools. The sarcasm of the essay is made clear to every middle school student who reads it.

Re: People are pooping more than ever on the streets of San Francisco

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Post by Eric_WVGG »

akoumis wrote: post #19
burtonator wrote: post #8

I have a modest proposal to end this problem. There are too many homeless in San Francisco. Additionally, California has too few wolves. I propose that we release wolves into the streets of San Francisco once per month. Only the strong will be able to evade the wolves and the weak and sick will be eaten. This will lower the homeless population will simultaneously helping the wolf population rebound to record numbers.

I don't have enough points to downvote you... this is why people hate techies, you view the displaced as a separate species altogether, they are just like you and your family, likely without the same upbringing and privileges Edit: Thanks guys I understand the proposal is a joke, it's just sick and callous. So all the people riffing on this joke are making nuanced social commentary as well with their analysis of home…

Maybe he's on to something, just misdirected.

If we fed the wealthy to the wolves, we could fit like a hundred people in each mansion.

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