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Post by javagram »

xenospn wrote: post #124
s3r3nity wrote: post #90

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My iPhone SE (refreshed version) hits all of this, except the 2 USB connections -- which is a very specific request, but w/e, I don't judge. In my mind still is one of the top 5 smartphones available, even if it hasn't refreshed in a few years.

I actually stopped optimizing my app for your screen size. I have no idea if it even works. Surprised there are people out there still using these!

Apple was selling them brand new until a few months ago. Of course people are still using them.

Isn’t there some sort of analytics you could add to your app to learn the screen size of your users?

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Post by Bjartr »

magic_beans wrote: post #101
euler_ wrote: post #62

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The screen protector is an integral part of the screen. It's not that if fails later on without it, trying to remove it destroys the screen. It's like pulling the contacts out of a port and complaining that the phone won't charge.

The screen protector should not be removable then.

Everything is removable if you are sufficiently stubborn.

It should be significantly more difficult to remove with bare fingers.

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

mrguyorama wrote: post #126
ethbro wrote: post #70

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As a Motorola lover, multi-day charge is awesome. Sometimes you forget to charge your phone. No problem! Battery's good until you get to a charger sometime the following day. Also, an oversized battery / efficient chip means I can power-use my phone for a full day without worrying about battery. And finally, because as your battery loses capacity over time, your phone drifts back to one-day charge, not sub-day charge…

I was spoiled by a Droid Turbo. Now I can't buy anything with less than 3500mAh of battery, which severely limits my options. Too bad Motorola phones never get software updates and are super locked down

Not to mention the latest offerings by Motorola have been lackluster.

I, too, loved my Droid Turbo. When I first got it, I remember driving from San Diego to the north edge of the Los Angeles metro area over about four hours using Waze. 4 hours of screen and GPS time and it only used about 40% of the battery. But after 3 years, 1 hour of Waze would consume 25% of the battery. The battery would barely last me a day, and if I was somewhere where I wanted to take a decent number of pictures, it wouldn't last more than a couple hours. I bought a replacement battery, but even though the battery was new, it was built years ago and was still slightly degraded.

I ended up buying a Pixel 3. The battery is only 3,000 mAh IIRC, but it's quite efficient. I usually finish my day with about 30-50% of the battery left depending on my usage. Of course, it'll be a different story in 2-3 years.

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Post by bluGill »

javagram wrote: post #138
bluGill wrote: post #105

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I have yet to see a bicycle with bluetooth. (electric bike is not the same thing). My car doesn't have bluetooth - it is only 13 years/250000 miles out so it has plenty of life left (most people replace their cars long before they are worn out, I drive mine into the ground). I haven't seen a leaf rake with bluetooth either, and most lawn mowers still don't have it either. I'm well aware that the dream phone may never…

My 2010 car didn’t come with Bluetooth either. I fixed it by replacing the head unit with one that supports Bluetooth and CarPlay. An easy DIY project or you can pay a small fee to have it done for you by an installer.

Right, or I can just get a phone with a loud enough speakers in the first place. I've outlined a number of situations where I want loud noise from my phone. Having the phone solve the problem is more convenient than fixing it in each situation separately.

I don't know if it is possible for the phone to provide this, but it is on my want list.

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Post by duhi88 »

jandrese wrote: post #130
iheartpotatoes wrote: post #120

I have an iPhone 7 and the Phone app periodically freezes requiring a reboot. Let that sink in: the primary function of the phone does not work. And I switched to Apple after too many Android issues turned me off completely. You think we're going to nail folding screens any time soon?

Sounds like you might have bad hardware or a corrupt install. Phone app freezes should be exceedingly rare, to the point of nonexistence for most users. I assume you have not jailbroken your phone?

Yea, I have a 7+ with no issues. Also a 6 that still works fine after the latest updates.

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Post by jmull »

rchaud wrote: post #135
jmull wrote: post #116

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Phone batteries are replaceable. Just not directly by end-users (well, not most end-users). There are design tradeoffs to make the batteries user-replaceable. E.g., the batteries are going to need a casing and socket that make them OK for users to handle and replace. The phone's going to need additional casing pieces, latches, and seals, etc. The phone's going to be a little bigger, heavier and more expensive. Maybe…

What you call "design tradeoffs" is what consumers call "basic features". I can't think of a single phone before the iPhone that had non-replaceable batteries. Samsung and LG had replacement slots on their flagships all the way up to 2014/15. You had someone a 2014 LG G3 today, and I doubt anyone would complain about the weight or the size, especially when the top-line iPhone has a 6.5 inch screen. > Maybe not a grea…

> ...what consumers call "basic features"

Consumers are the ones who have insisted — with their wallets — that they prefer phones without user-swappable batteries.

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Post by iainmerrick »

valine wrote: post #129
oliwarner wrote: post #53

There are a few ways of looking at this. Most of the more engineery-types are pointing out the inevitability of failure, the challenges trying to find a good enough substrate to mount a touchscreen stack on, and trying to protect an exposed external hinge from impact, and all that material engineering science stuff that's really clever... But well besides the point. I can't even rationalise why anybody wants a foldin…

I want a folding screen because it will make every part of using phones a nicer experience. There's a reason tablets exist: tablets provide a superior user experience. The foldable form factor lets you put a tablet in your pocket. Nobody understood the need for the iPad when it came out either.

I dispute that tablets are a superior user experience. They’re great for some things, but in general phones are better. Phones crush tablets in both sales and usage, and most people have a big phone rather than a small phone and a big tablet.

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Post by agumonkey »

paulmd wrote: post #74
NLips wrote: post #29

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Vertus were always intended as ostentatious, bling products, rather than fantastic phones. They were mid-range models covered in gold and diamonds etc. A Ferrari is meant to be ostentatious _and_ a great car (not withstanding pratcicality or cost).

> A Ferrari is meant to be ostentatious _and_ a great car (not withstanding pratcicality or cost). Absolutely not. Ferraris are renowned for being shop queens/needing absurdly frequent servicing, which probably needs to be done at an official dealership. Also, often you need to remove the motor to do basic service (the car is designed for this). eg see discussions in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledin…

A Ferrari is still in another world of sport vehicles. You can't find a sport sedan to be better than a Ferrari.

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Post by rhinoceraptor »

I don’t get why all the phone makers are set on making bendable folding phones. We have the tech to make OLEDs with near zero bezels, so it seems like the most practical way to do this would just be to use two separate display elements, and make the gap between them as small as possible.

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Post by benj111 »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #102
benj111 wrote: post #72

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"There's nothing left to do. Phones are as dead as the PC." My toilet has a cistern, u bend, and all the features of a toilet of 100 years ago. Never the less toilets are far from dead. What you are describing is a mature product, not a dead product.

My toilet is dramatically different, better ceramic and less of it, lighter. It's a close-coupled cistern doing away with some piping. It's dual flush, uses much less water; it even has a redesigned ball-cock (float shut-off valve). It has a soft-close removeable seat/lid. It's actually surprising the amount of new tech in a regular toilet - even compared to 20 years ago. And that's not a complex automated toilet, ju…

I've never weighed a toilet ?! So I cant comment on that.

Close coupled cisterns have been around for over a century.

The ball cock redesign is a result of the dual flush arrangement (I thought?). But yes that is a change.

Having never come across a soft close lid on a toilet I can't agree they're anything close to standard, I'm sure they exist though. (I'm British also btw, so our experience should somewhat match)

So that's one change mandated by law?

You raise a good point about Japanese toilets though.

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