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Re: Show HN: Simple but Powerful IDE for Databases

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$15-25 a month? (or $40 a month for all?) (The free version doesn't support basic things like import and export, so it's really not viable for professionals)

DataGrip is $20/month, for all databases, and includes additional ones this product doesn't support. Nor does it have limits like the number of tabs you can have open. And it's cross platform today.

Re: Show HN: Simple but Powerful IDE for Databases

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One-time fee okay. 40$ a month? Hell no.

DataGrip is $20 a month for more features. However, after you've paid for 12 months you get perpetual access, so you can essentially pay for 12 months (or yearly at $199) and it essentially becomes a one-time license to that version if you'd rather not keep paying.

(I've been a DataGrip customer for a couple of years now)

Re: Show HN: Simple but Powerful IDE for Databases

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What is the open source alternative?

There's DBeaver Community

For use with Oracle, I switched after many years from Oracle SQL Developer to DBeaver; the latter is rather close, except for advanced Oracle-specific features.

SQL Developer caused me significant file system grief by creating recursive directory hard links in the settings folder (on Windows), so it's banned forever from my systems.

Re: Show HN: Simple but Powerful IDE for Databases

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What is the open source alternative?

There's DBeaver Community

I'm pretty sure the GUI developers of DBeaver are blind sadists who want to punish all database admins for their sins. It would be considered 'cruel and unusual' in any U.S. court of law. It's not just ugly, it's a crime against humanity itself. Small animals within 10 yards of a computer inexplicably die any time the program is started.

That said, it really is quite useful and usually the best tool to get db stuff done quickly. It's my go to dbadmin app.

Re: Show HN: Simple but Powerful IDE for Databases

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What Java apps became popular, other than Minecraft? The only things that got used were tools from companies like Cisco and IBM which everyone detested using. People still complain about Java.

How about JetBrains’s entire suite of IDEs? They are Java (well, now probably mostly Kotlin, but still JVM) based and cross-platform and as a user of those and previously Vi/Emacs for three decades I can say totally belong in my toolkit.

I begrudgingly use IDEA because for some languages I cannot get nearly the same level of productivity with better tools, such as Vim or Sublime. But that doesn't mean I like using the damned thing. As soon as I can ditch it, I will and I do. Same goes for all the Electron rubbish.

Every time I have to wait a few seconds after clicking on something trivial, like the File top-level menu, I remind myself of how much my Intel i7 can do in 1 second, and my disdain for Java and Electron apps only increases.

I don't know if Windows or Mac OS have a battery usage chart by app, like Android does, with warnings for badly written software. If they don't, they should add it. Maybe that would clue more people in.

Re: Show HN: Simple but Powerful IDE for Databases

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This is Hacker News so you will get lots of people chiming in to remind you they won’t use your project because it’s Electron. The people like me usually don’t say anything but I know how disheartening it can be to only receive negativity so I’m going to chime in. I’m currently running Slack and Discord and am happy with both desktop applications. I would absolute consider using any future electron based applications…

I think VS Code is the gold standard for Electron. Slack, not so much. On my work laptop, it uses 800mb over 5 processes, and is easily 5x slower to paste a screenshot into than Teams.

I wish VS Code wasn’t Electron. It’s noticeably laggier that native editors, and its performance under load is a lot worse.

Re: Show HN: Simple but Powerful IDE for Databases

#79

is "Show HN:" a paid way for companies to advertise on hacker news? If not, awesome, otherwise, I feel a bit naive in thinking HN was a more pure approach to content and would be very disappointed.

Well the guidelines say that "Show HN is a way to share something that you've made on Hacker News." but it looks like the community is satisfied to have marketers promoting (which is what OP does) instead of builders discussing with other hackers.

I share your disappointment and would like to know how the admins see this.

Re: Show HN: Simple but Powerful IDE for Databases

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I think VS Code is the gold standard for Electron. Slack, not so much. On my work laptop, it uses 800mb over 5 processes, and is easily 5x slower to paste a screenshot into than Teams.

I wish VS Code wasn’t Electron. It’s noticeably laggier that native editors, and its performance under load is a lot worse.

The question is, could any of the native editors keep the pace of new features/improvements?
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