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Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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Post by ksenzee »

majewsky wrote: post #27
tooltalk wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is obviously an early adopter edition of fairly interesting, futuristic product -- Samsung is likewise releasing it in limited quantity by reservation only. It's only gimmicky as phablets that many had denounced years ago.

> It's only gimmicky as phablets that many had denounced years ago. I still want a compact flagship phone.

I just bought a Samsung Galaxy S10e and so far I'm quite pleased with it. It could stand to be smaller, but it does fit in my annoyingly small women's jeans pocket.

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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Post by euler_ »

onion2k wrote: post #13
hliyan wrote: post #2

Most cases seem to be due to users mistakenly removing the permanent screen protection layer. The company claims that the foldable screen has been tested for 200,000 folds -- i.e. about 5 years of rigorous use.

Most cases seem to be due to users mistakenly removing the permanent screen protection layer. Let's not push blame on to the user. If the screen protection is so vital that the screen will fail within a day without it, then the problem is that the screen protection is removable and to easy to remove.

The screen protector is an integral part of the screen. It's not that if fails later on without it, trying to remove it destroys the screen. It's like pulling the contacts out of a port and complaining that the phone won't charge.

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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Post by the-pigeon »

sandworm101 wrote: post #58
oliwarner wrote: post #53

There are a few ways of looking at this. Most of the more engineery-types are pointing out the inevitability of failure, the challenges trying to find a good enough substrate to mount a touchscreen stack on, and trying to protect an exposed external hinge from impact, and all that material engineering science stuff that's really clever... But well besides the point. I can't even rationalise why anybody wants a foldin…

>> They've made every size of phone between a stamp and a tablet. There's nothing left to do. Really? My dream phone doesn't exist yet. I want a phone that is reliable, that lasts more than a few days on a single charge. I want one with two USB connections. I want one with a proper headphone jack, and a speaker that is loud enough to hear properly while driving (without a mount). For these features I am willing to tr…

Why do you want your phone charge to last more than a day? Can't you just charge it while you sleep?

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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Post by sumnole »

shifto wrote: post #36
Traubenfuchs wrote: post #18

This is the direct result of rushing to offer something that can be called innovation after years of a draught. But foldable phones are as much a gimmick as 3D cameras. Phone innovation is indeed dead -for the customer, that's ok, but for the vendors it's a nightmare.

This is definitely not a "gimmick as 3D cameras". I can't wait to replace my phone, tablet and laptop with a single device and a Bluetooth keyboard for whenever I need one. A lot of people I know feel the same and honestly I think people who don't see the potential are being shortsighted.

I'm with you, I think phones like these that replace multiple devices are the future for mobile computing because it's pocketable and will be there when you need it and least expect to need it, unlike a laptop.

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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Post by umvi »

Aaargh20318 wrote: post #45
NLips wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vertus were always intended as ostentatious, bling products, rather than fantastic phones. They were mid-range models covered in gold and diamonds etc. A Ferrari is meant to be ostentatious _and_ a great car (not withstanding pratcicality or cost).

> Vertus were always intended as ostentatious, bling products, rather than fantastic phones. They were mid-range models covered in gold and diamonds etc. I never understood this. If you're going to make a ridiculously expensive phone by taking an existing model and covering it in gold and diamonds, then why not start out with a high-end model ? It's not going to have any significant impact on the price anyway.

Probably same reason Dell's high end XPS laptops use low end absolute crap stock parts on the inside (no name Wifi/SSD cards) - to maximize margins as much as possible?

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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Post by dahdum »

sandworm101 wrote: post #58
oliwarner wrote: post #53

There are a few ways of looking at this. Most of the more engineery-types are pointing out the inevitability of failure, the challenges trying to find a good enough substrate to mount a touchscreen stack on, and trying to protect an exposed external hinge from impact, and all that material engineering science stuff that's really clever... But well besides the point. I can't even rationalise why anybody wants a foldin…

>> They've made every size of phone between a stamp and a tablet. There's nothing left to do. Really? My dream phone doesn't exist yet. I want a phone that is reliable, that lasts more than a few days on a single charge. I want one with two USB connections. I want one with a proper headphone jack, and a speaker that is loud enough to hear properly while driving (without a mount). For these features I am willing to tr…

I'm sure you've realized your dream phone will never exist, it sounds more like an older ultrabook than a phone. What's the reason for a USB port, much less two of them? Every new vehicle the past few years has bluetooth, so why a loud speaker?

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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Post by misterprime »

sandworm101 wrote: post #58
oliwarner wrote: post #53

There are a few ways of looking at this. Most of the more engineery-types are pointing out the inevitability of failure, the challenges trying to find a good enough substrate to mount a touchscreen stack on, and trying to protect an exposed external hinge from impact, and all that material engineering science stuff that's really clever... But well besides the point. I can't even rationalise why anybody wants a foldin…

>> They've made every size of phone between a stamp and a tablet. There's nothing left to do. Really? My dream phone doesn't exist yet. I want a phone that is reliable, that lasts more than a few days on a single charge. I want one with two USB connections. I want one with a proper headphone jack, and a speaker that is loud enough to hear properly while driving (without a mount). For these features I am willing to tr…

Can I ask what the dual USB is used for? Charge + USB OTG device?

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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Post by misterprime »

the-pigeon wrote: post #63
sandworm101 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> They've made every size of phone between a stamp and a tablet. There's nothing left to do. Really? My dream phone doesn't exist yet. I want a phone that is reliable, that lasts more than a few days on a single charge. I want one with two USB connections. I want one with a proper headphone jack, and a speaker that is loud enough to hear properly while driving (without a mount). For these features I am willing to tr…

Why do you want your phone charge to last more than a day? Can't you just charge it while you sleep?

Sleeping in the middle of nowhere to enjoy some stargazing perhaps?

Stuck in an airport overnight?

Long term local power outage?

There are nice things about long lasting batteries.

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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Post by fetus8 »

sandworm101 wrote: post #58
oliwarner wrote: post #53

There are a few ways of looking at this. Most of the more engineery-types are pointing out the inevitability of failure, the challenges trying to find a good enough substrate to mount a touchscreen stack on, and trying to protect an exposed external hinge from impact, and all that material engineering science stuff that's really clever... But well besides the point. I can't even rationalise why anybody wants a foldin…

>> They've made every size of phone between a stamp and a tablet. There's nothing left to do. Really? My dream phone doesn't exist yet. I want a phone that is reliable, that lasts more than a few days on a single charge. I want one with two USB connections. I want one with a proper headphone jack, and a speaker that is loud enough to hear properly while driving (without a mount). For these features I am willing to tr…

Why do you need a loud enough speaker to hear it while driving? Can't you just tie your phone into your car's audio system? Bluetooth, Aux Cable, or otherwise??

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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Post by ethbro »

the-pigeon wrote: post #63
sandworm101 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> They've made every size of phone between a stamp and a tablet. There's nothing left to do. Really? My dream phone doesn't exist yet. I want a phone that is reliable, that lasts more than a few days on a single charge. I want one with two USB connections. I want one with a proper headphone jack, and a speaker that is loud enough to hear properly while driving (without a mount). For these features I am willing to tr…

Why do you want your phone charge to last more than a day? Can't you just charge it while you sleep?

As a Motorola lover, multi-day charge is awesome.

Sometimes you forget to charge your phone. No problem! Battery's good until you get to a charger sometime the following day.

Also, an oversized battery / efficient chip means I can power-use my phone for a full day without worrying about battery.

And finally, because as your battery loses capacity over time, your phone drifts back to one-day charge, not sub-day charge.

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