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Xubuntu 19.04: The Exhaustive Update

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Re: Xubuntu 19.04: The Exhaustive Update

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Post by wink »

Kaiyou wrote: post #32
fareesh wrote: post #3

I've been using Kubuntu since 18.04. The performance has been good i.e. much better than Ubuntu w/ Gnome, and most things are relatively painless/intuitive to setup when needed. KDE has some decent themes as well to get it to look a little more polished than the default theme.

I was an avid Kubuntu user in the KDE 3.X days over a decade ago. Some significant changes were made to the project poisoning the well for me, personally, since then. Still kind of curios: would the current KDE offer anything to a i3wm user?

You can run both in parallel, I wrote about it a while ago - https://f5n.org/blog/2018/i3-kde5-plasma/ - and actually drafted a post about whether I'm happy with that choice (TLDR: very happy, but not sure I need KDE at all).

Re: Xubuntu 19.04: The Exhaustive Update

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Post by theandrewbailey »

mnbvkhgvmj wrote: post #39
phosphophyllite wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can linux-desktop stand more fragmentation?

Xubuntu has existed for at least 8 years not. Possibly much longer.

Since 2006[0]. I remember looking for a small user-friendly distro in 2008/9 that would fit my college-issued laptop's OEM emergency partition (5-ish GB). That partition was never used, as reimaging was the solution to almost every problem, yet they never bothered to delete it from the official images.

In the time and machines since, I've kept using Xubuntu.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xubuntu

Re: Xubuntu 19.04: The Exhaustive Update

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Post by theandrewbailey »

virtualpain wrote: post #18

I'm not sure whether Xubuntu includes KDE's stuff or people here confused between Xubuntu and Kubuntu?

There are no KDE apps or libraries in Xubuntu. I'm pretty sure that I would have noticed in the 10 years of using Xubuntu and updating it with Synaptic.

Re: Xubuntu 19.04: The Exhaustive Update

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Post by 4thaccount »

willvarfar wrote: post #23

Whaoo I can't wait! Where does Xubuntu and Kubuntu stand, install-base-wise, compared to the default Ubuntu? And other distros, for that matter? I'm one of many people who left Ubuntu as soon as they started doing their big UI changes. I went to Xubuntu. But I have no bigger idea of which distro is hot anymore; once I settled on Xubuntu, I haven't really been shopping around for alternatives.

I've used Xubuntu for years as a weekend OS for side projects. It seems to work well.

Re: Xubuntu 19.04: The Exhaustive Update

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Post by yagodragon »

What really sets me off with linux DE's is how poorly they handle dpi scaling on external monitors. I recently bought a 24" 2560 × 1440 monitor for my 15.6 laptop running Ubuntu Mate 18.04. This is what i went through just to make it work.

1. Plugged the hdmi, everything looks so small. 2. Mate desktop had HiDPI support but only by a scaling factor of 2. Now everything looks very large. 3. I have to manually change the fonts dpi settings. Chrome and some other apps look good but the menus, file manager and firefox are still upscaled. 4. I manually change layout.css.devPixelsPerPx in about:config to make firefox look good.

Finally, the result looks very unpolished. The menus are still largely upscaled and some apps like vlc won't even scale at all. My laptop's screen can't be used as a secondary screen because everything is upscaled, not to mention that i have to manually undo all those steps to revert everything back to "normal" for my 15.6" laptop screen. I eventually wrote some scripts with dconf to automate the proccess but it's just not good.

Does anyone have experience with external monitors and linux desktops? How does xfce or kde handle this? I tried gnome that supports fractional scaling and it's way better than mate. Now the problem is that i only have 8GB of ram and gnome shell is known to be a ram hog.

Re: Xubuntu 19.04: The Exhaustive Update

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Post by AlexeyBrin »

yagodragon wrote: post #48

What really sets me off with linux DE's is how poorly they handle dpi scaling on external monitors. I recently bought a 24" 2560 × 1440 monitor for my 15.6 laptop running Ubuntu Mate 18.04. This is what i went through just to make it work. 1. Plugged the hdmi, everything looks so small. 2. Mate desktop had HiDPI support but only by a scaling factor of 2. Now everything looks very large. 3. I have to manually change t…

KDE is a bit better with high resolution displays, try it with a live Kubuntu image and see if it works for your setup.

Re: Xubuntu 19.04: The Exhaustive Update

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Post by oblio »

pojntfx wrote: post #43

XFCE is great but OSTree really is the future. I don't see any reason for still using the dinosaur Ubuntu in a world where one can have Fedora Silverblue.

What does OSTree have to do with XFCE?

OSTree: https://ostree.readthedocs.io/en/latest/manual/introduction/ -> The underlying architecture might be summarized as "git for operating system binaries"

vs

XFCE: https://www.xfce.org/ -> Xfce is a lightweight desktop environment for UNIX-like operating systems. It aims to be fast and low on system resources, while still being visually appealing and user friendly.

Also that Silverblue thing, assuming it's this site: https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/ doesn't really do a good job at explaining what it is...

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