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Facebook 'unintentionally uploaded' 1.5M people's email contacts without consent

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Re: Facebook 'unintentionally uploaded' 1.5M people's email contacts without consent

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post #42

Saying "unintentionally" here is like saying you unintentionally stole someone's TV when they gave you their key to walk their dog. It takes extra work to upload those contacts, which means several managers and developers decided to do it and then spent time implementing it. For the FB employees reading this: what is your tipping point? Would you say no to that assignment?

From the article it sounds like there was a prompt for permission that got removed: > Facebook told Gizmodo via email that in May 2016 it made a revision to the registration process, which originally asked the affected users for permission to upload contact lists. That change removed the opt-in prompt, though the company did not realize the underlying functionality was still operating in some cases. It doesn't take a…

Facebook is a multi-billion dollar company. This is gross negligence if they didn't spend time to QA this.

Re: Facebook 'unintentionally uploaded' 1.5M people's email contacts without consent

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article it sounds like there was a prompt for permission that got removed: > Facebook told Gizmodo via email that in May 2016 it made a revision to the registration process, which originally asked the affected users for permission to upload contact lists. That change removed the opt-in prompt, though the company did not realize the underlying functionality was still operating in some cases. It doesn't take a…

Facebook is a multi-billion dollar company. This is gross negligence if they didn't spend time to QA this.

Just to be devil's advocate: Google is notorious for having separate siloed teams that do not share efficiencies or updates (eg. Hangouts and other messengers). A company like Google and Facebook don't have a good excuse, but we shouldn't be surprised.

Re: Facebook 'unintentionally uploaded' 1.5M people's email contacts without consent

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post #42

Saying "unintentionally" here is like saying you unintentionally stole someone's TV when they gave you their key to walk their dog. It takes extra work to upload those contacts, which means several managers and developers decided to do it and then spent time implementing it. For the FB employees reading this: what is your tipping point? Would you say no to that assignment?

From the article it sounds like there was a prompt for permission that got removed: > Facebook told Gizmodo via email that in May 2016 it made a revision to the registration process, which originally asked the affected users for permission to upload contact lists. That change removed the opt-in prompt, though the company did not realize the underlying functionality was still operating in some cases. It doesn't take a…

its such a coincidence that these accidents keep happening in ways that enable further data gathering...surely there isn't a larger problem with Facebook's attitude towards their users' private data or anything

Re: Facebook 'unintentionally uploaded' 1.5M people's email contacts without consent

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post #42

Saying "unintentionally" here is like saying you unintentionally stole someone's TV when they gave you their key to walk their dog. It takes extra work to upload those contacts, which means several managers and developers decided to do it and then spent time implementing it. For the FB employees reading this: what is your tipping point? Would you say no to that assignment?

From the article it sounds like there was a prompt for permission that got removed: > Facebook told Gizmodo via email that in May 2016 it made a revision to the registration process, which originally asked the affected users for permission to upload contact lists. That change removed the opt-in prompt, though the company did not realize the underlying functionality was still operating in some cases. It doesn't take a…

Also from the article

> A Facebook spokesperson also told Gizmodo that a screenshot of the original opt-in prompt was not available.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist but if you're trying to claim you cannot capture a screenshot from any release meant to be shipped out, either you're crap at release management or are full of shit. Which one is it?

Also, even if we were to suspend logic and belive this was a bug, what's FB doing to correct it? Are they deleting all uploaded contacts and going to request for consent again?

FB is a cesspit. Get out of the company if you work there and get out of the platform in any case.

Re: Facebook 'unintentionally uploaded' 1.5M people's email contacts without consent

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post #45

Since FB has gone out of their way to weaponize "friendship", my suggestion to everyone who actually likes to have some standards in their life and don't like to be manipulated like that is simple. Just do it back to them. "Unfriend" (IRL) everyone you know who works at Facebook and tell them you will "friend" them back once they leave the company.

Or maybe people could learn again "personal responsibility" and realize that everything they give to facebook is exactly like giving oyur life to any compagny like Coca Cola, and that these compagny can do pretty much anything with it within the limits of the "laws that are actually enforced", whose number is pretty much 0. Stop complaining, start taking responsibility.

You're right and I appreciate your comment. You probably noticed taking responsibility is extremely unpopular nowadays in all aspects of life, most noticeable in politics probably.

Re: Facebook 'unintentionally uploaded' 1.5M people's email contacts without consent

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post #47
post #42

Saying "unintentionally" here is like saying you unintentionally stole someone's TV when they gave you their key to walk their dog. It takes extra work to upload those contacts, which means several managers and developers decided to do it and then spent time implementing it. For the FB employees reading this: what is your tipping point? Would you say no to that assignment?

>what is your tipping point? Would you say no to that assignment? When FB stops giving them a check. At least that has been my experience watching programmers at other companies. Unless ethically bound by regulation and law, few people seem to have ethics.

>few people seem to have ethics

Or maybe their set of ethics simply differs from yours. It is very subjective after all

Re: Facebook 'unintentionally uploaded' 1.5M people's email contacts without consent

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post #63

At some point, some government is going to have to step in and stop Facebook. Five years ago, I would not have believed that I would have supported government action. Now, I’m afraid for the future if there is no intervention.

Have you read the Prism papers? Governments love this mass data collection since it makes their job so much easier.

Re: Facebook 'unintentionally uploaded' 1.5M people's email contacts without consent

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post #63

At some point, some government is going to have to step in and stop Facebook. Five years ago, I would not have believed that I would have supported government action. Now, I’m afraid for the future if there is no intervention.

I don't know if you've followed the news, but multiple governments have investigated, sued and fined Facebook. A quick Google indicates Facebook may end up paying 1.6 billion to the EU. The UK is doing an investigation too, with FB's impact on the Brexit referendum, as well as the whole Cambridge Analytica thing.

If you're thinking Facebook is getting away with it, you're wrong.

Of course, they're mainly getting fined; if that isn't harsh enough punishment then I don't know what to do next, that's dangerous territory.

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