Nice! What I haven't found in the docs is how federation would work.
Via ActivityPub — see https://github.com/dessalines/lemmy/blob/master/docs/API.md.
For more general info on ActivityPub itself, see https://activitypub.rocks.
Lemmy: Federated Alternative to Reddit in Rust
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Re: Lemmy: Federated Alternative to Reddit in Rust
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Similar to an email service. You rely on the node operators to manage it.
So delegate this all to a few large blacklists (spamhaus)? And block all residential users by default?
Generally not, proactive blocking or silencing is reserved for instances that host illicit content like child porn or hate speech. Inter-moderator communication happens between your instance admin/democracy (or whatever structure your instance uses) and other instances.
Traditional tools like muting a user, silencing an instance (if they're spamming up the Federated Timeline on other instances, like Humblr.social does) and blocking (if the mods are total shit) can still be used. Small instances are the bulk of the content, so you aren't about to block them. Large instances like Mastodon.social are generally blocked tho (if your admin/democracy cares about a vibrant Fediverse).
Re: Lemmy: Federated Alternative to Reddit in Rust
#23sharing some others in case it helps - https://github.com/mariusor/littr.go - https://gitlab.com/tuxether/anancus
Another, decentralized, project https://getaether.net/
Love the processes in this aether project with the voting for mods and such. Wish there was an easy way to clone it and create a subspace aether system that was not attached to the others. I have some user groups that would use this kind of thing - but they would quickly try to game the mod voting thing in many ways, wreck all kinds of havoc trying to get things blocked / banned and ruined - and so we'd need a function for a high level set of super mods and a way to prevent the coming toxic soup from running over into the main project.
Took a look at the open source page on there and there is a bunch of stuff, it's impressive, but too complex for me to try to piece together. Perhaps something like riot matrix is more like we need, and to find some way to incorporate the mod voting kind of system as some kind of addin to a self hosted instance of matrix kind of thing.
Re: Lemmy: Federated Alternative to Reddit in Rust
#24It doesn't look like there's any federation right now, the test site ( https://dev.lemmy.ml/ ) says "Federation into the ActivityPub network is on the roadmap."
I have also reddit/HN clone running on https://esourcenews.com with code on github (written in python - Flask https://github.com/matoous/newz). Although this one is not federated I added tools such as automatic RSS feed import.
Re: Lemmy: Federated Alternative to Reddit in Rust
#25Serious question: from a user perspective, isn't spam going to be insanely bad in the Fediverse? How do you stop spam without a central authority?
Federated bayesian filters or local machine learning ?
You could have a personal (stored on device) Bayesian filter that learns from your preferences, and a shared one to block spam spotted by your contacts
As other people suggested, I don't think it should be at the node operator level, for freedom of speech concerns
Re: Lemmy: Federated Alternative to Reddit in Rust
#26So... Usenet?
Re: Lemmy: Federated Alternative to Reddit in Rust
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
So delegate this all to a few large blacklists (spamhaus)? And block all residential users by default?
Generally not, proactive blocking or silencing is reserved for instances that host illicit content like child porn or hate speech. Inter-moderator communication happens between your instance admin/democracy (or whatever structure your instance uses) and other instances. Traditional tools like muting a user, silencing an instance (if they're spamming up the Federated Timeline on other instances, like Humblr.social doe…
That sounds like it only works because spammers aren't really trying yet.
Re: Lemmy: Federated Alternative to Reddit in Rust
#28Very nice! I am curious how this would compare to Discourse feature and usability wise.
It would also nice to have a NNTP gateway to these webforums. VBulletin had one.
Re: Lemmy: Federated Alternative to Reddit in Rust
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Another, decentralized, project https://getaether.net/
Love the processes in this aether project with the voting for mods and such. Wish there was an easy way to clone it and create a subspace aether system that was not attached to the others. I have some user groups that would use this kind of thing - but they would quickly try to game the mod voting thing in many ways, wreck all kinds of havoc trying to get things blocked / banned and ruined - and so we'd need a functi…
This is actually something that I'm working on, if not the thing I'm working on. :)
Re: Lemmy: Federated Alternative to Reddit in Rust
#30The code quality is amazing. Good job.
On the contrary, I thought the code was terrible quality. If someone wrote this code at my company they would be fired, or more likely not hired in the first place.