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Re: The Samsung Galaxy Fold's display seems to have problems

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Post by setquk » Wed, Apr 17, 2019, 9:20 PM UTC

clairity wrote: post #79

setquk wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The only way this could be worse is if they started exploding, too. Give it a few months. This is like a 1980s plastic lunch box. The moulded hinge always snapped in half after about 3 months regardless of what you did. Cue optimus prime letting your lunch out all over the floor. I think they are failing because it was a fucking stupid idea. Edit: If anything I want NO mechanical components on any handheld device I…

> "Edit: If anything I want NO mechanical components on any handheld device I own because in the last 40 years of my life everything has broken mechanically eventually." your anecdote seems to suffer from cognitive bias. screens are non-mechanical (except in this galaxy fold) and yet they're still the most broken component in a phone.

We can pick conceptual holes in an argument until the universe implodes but lets consider that in normal use you won't break your phone screen. Until Samsung came out with this, which is the problem.

Re: The Samsung Galaxy Fold's display seems to have problems

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Post by hinkley » Wed, Apr 17, 2019, 9:21 PM UTC

bsmith wrote: post #66

hinkley wrote: post #26

> The phone comes with this protective layer/film. Samsung says you are not supposed to remove it. I removed it, not knowing you’re not supposed to (consumers won’t know either). It appeared removable in the left corner, so I took it off. I believe this contributed to the problem. How do you even?

Electronics, especially with displays, are very commonly shipped with protective, removable plastic coatings. How is this at all surprising? Seems like an honest mistake on the part of the user, combined with a bit of design (and documentation) fault on the part of the manufacturer.

No, this is straight up design fault.

I bet the engineers even warned internal testers NOT to remove the coating. And I further bet someone in QA told them they were a pack of idiots and they didn't listen.

If a non-removable coating has air gaps or loose edges that invite peeling, that's a manufacturing defect.

Re: The Samsung Galaxy Fold's display seems to have problems

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Post by pjc50 » Wed, Apr 17, 2019, 9:23 PM UTC

Theodores wrote: post #68

oliveshell wrote: post #2

I love the idea of a proper foldable screen, but sadly, I’m not surprised. I remember thinking they’d have issues with material fatigue, what with the screen being on the small side of the bend radius. Then their demo showed a visible line of different brightness along the fold and figured it’d be a low-volume launch. (Hope they figure it out eventually, though. Far be it from me to chastise someone for taking the st…

I would like to see this is a low end disposable phone. Bear with me on this, but there are many cameras on this phone, it could have just average cameras front and back, good enough for sending WhatsApp messages etc, not winning photography awards. Then the screens. If there was a low-res screen that folded with no extra outer screen then that would be a lot cheaper. Then if the hinge is little more than two screens…

> the hinge is little more than two screens held together by a screen protector

Yes, but that would be rubbish. Big black bar across the video you're trying to watch. What Samsung actually built was the genuinely folding screen with pixels all the way across, which would be amazing if it works and didn't cost $2,000.

> even be at a $250 price point and be affordable in countries that don't have reliable electricity.

That seems rather high compared to the $50 tablet market.

Re: The Samsung Galaxy Fold's display seems to have problems

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Post by adestefan » Wed, Apr 17, 2019, 9:26 PM UTC

pastor_elm wrote: post #35

gzu wrote: post #28

Not sure if I’m in the minority but I would prefer two separated clamshell screens to one bendy screen. At least until the bendable tech is 100%. Two separate screens would still allow great multitasking when necessary. When not used perhaps it can completely fold behind the device for a traditional smartphone experience.

i prefer keeping a phone that can fit in my pocket easily but i guess i'm even more in the minority.

The history of cell phones seems to have been to make them smaller until they’re too small followed by making them bigger until they’re too big.

Re: The Samsung Galaxy Fold's display seems to have problems

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Post by mrguyorama » Wed, Apr 17, 2019, 9:28 PM UTC

lowken10 wrote: post #77

mrguyorama wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean like that time the iPhone lost a significant amount of signal when you held it to make a call? Or how the vast majority of Apple computers struggled with heat related issues until the past 5ish years?

I had the iPhone 4. The antenna was a non issue.

Maybe for you, but enough people experienced it for a class action settlement:

http://www.iphone4settlement.com/

Re: The Samsung Galaxy Fold's display seems to have problems

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Post by crushcrashcrush » Wed, Apr 17, 2019, 9:28 PM UTC

wpasc wrote: post #4

Even if the Fold has some problems, I commend them for being bold with their design and ambitions. It may be safer to wait for the next generation of that phone, but many recent developments in the hardware space have been lacking in ambition. Kudos to Samsung

This is the comment of the fucking century.

If this was Apple, I wonder what your comment would be?

Re: The Samsung Galaxy Fold's display seems to have problems

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Post by JustSomeNobody » Wed, Apr 17, 2019, 9:37 PM UTC

mrguyorama wrote: post #72

threeseed wrote: post #52

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I am sure all of those people with broken phones are appreciative of how "bold" Samsung has been in releasing this phone early. Personally I prefer the Apple approach with new products e.g. iPhone, iPad, Watch which is to have largely perfected the hardware before shipping but release it with MVP software which they aggressively improve.

You mean like that time the iPhone lost a significant amount of signal when you held it to make a call? Or how the vast majority of Apple computers struggled with heat related issues until the past 5ish years?

Dnt frget th Mac kyboar.

Re: The Samsung Galaxy Fold's display seems to have problems

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Post by scarface74 » Wed, Apr 17, 2019, 9:40 PM UTC

wpasc wrote: post #4

Even if the Fold has some problems, I commend them for being bold with their design and ambitions. It may be safer to wait for the next generation of that phone, but many recent developments in the hardware space have been lacking in ambition. Kudos to Samsung

How is it "being bold" to release a product that costs $2000 and that has a high failure rate? Yes I realize the same can be said about the MacBook keyboards and I wouldn't disagree.

Re: The Samsung Galaxy Fold's display seems to have problems

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Post by scarface74 » Wed, Apr 17, 2019, 9:42 PM UTC

mrguyorama wrote: post #72

threeseed wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am sure all of those people with broken phones are appreciative of how "bold" Samsung has been in releasing this phone early. Personally I prefer the Apple approach with new products e.g. iPhone, iPad, Watch which is to have largely perfected the hardware before shipping but release it with MVP software which they aggressively improve.

You mean like that time the iPhone lost a significant amount of signal when you held it to make a call? Or how the vast majority of Apple computers struggled with heat related issues until the past 5ish years?

The whole AntennaGate was overblown. Apple continued selling the same unmodified GSM iPhone for four years with little controversy after the first four to six months.

Re: The Samsung Galaxy Fold's display seems to have problems

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Post by axaxs » Wed, Apr 17, 2019, 9:48 PM UTC

gzu wrote: post #28

Not sure if I’m in the minority but I would prefer two separated clamshell screens to one bendy screen. At least until the bendable tech is 100%. Two separate screens would still allow great multitasking when necessary. When not used perhaps it can completely fold behind the device for a traditional smartphone experience.

That's the idea behind the ZTE Axon M. Neat idea, but the device seemed uninspiring.