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A Chicago woman fell victim to Candida auris, a drug-resistant fungus

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Re: A Chicago woman fell victim to Candida auris, a drug-resistant fungus

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Did anybody tried to apply blackseed and garlic light deep - fried coconut oil concoction? Just curious, sharing as it is our sub tropical Assam-Burma jungle traditional remedy for anything and everything fungal infection since time immemorial. Regards to all.

The issue is that the fungus has entered their bloodstream.

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Is this becoming a serious problem? Or is this just getting more press attention suddenly? We've had outbreaks and near-hysteria of various sorts (HIV, SARS, swine flu etc). But those seem orders of magnitude easier to manage than this fungal infection. You don't need to tear down hospital rooms after an HIV patient spent time in it.

The cases are accelerating, and the information is actively being suppressed from the public (for what they see as good reasons, I guess). Something tells me that candida auris will change the way hospitals are built and maintained.

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Yes, because trial and error over thousands of years of trying local flora couldn't possibly yield a solution from an eco-system that has to actively fight off fungal infections. /sarcasm

Yes everything that 'comes from the earth' is automatically better for you than something that was rigorously clinically tested!

That's not the contention. The contention is that concoctions that have been developed by people who have experimented with home remedies for centuries should be clinically tested (e.g. by administering to someone with a drug-resistant fungal infection) to see whether they might be effective.

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Yes everything that 'comes from the earth' is automatically better for you than something that was rigorously clinically tested!

That's not the contention. The contention is that concoctions that have been developed by people who have experimented with home remedies for centuries should be clinically tested (e.g. by administering to someone with a drug-resistant fungal infection) to see whether they might be effective.

Who is holding scientists back from doing this exactly?

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Did anybody tried to apply blackseed and garlic light deep - fried coconut oil concoction? Just curious, sharing as it is our sub tropical Assam-Burma jungle traditional remedy for anything and everything fungal infection since time immemorial. Regards to all.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "blackseed and garlic light deep - fried coconut oil concoction?"

Not OP, but I found various info about the values of Nigella as a herbal remedy, e.g. with garlic https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4687760/

When I read "black seed" in the comment I guessed it might be Nigella seeds, which are sprinkled atop pides in the local middle-eastern bakeries, adding a lovely piquancy to the bread.

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That's not the contention. The contention is that concoctions that have been developed by people who have experimented with home remedies for centuries should be clinically tested (e.g. by administering to someone with a drug-resistant fungal infection) to see whether they might be effective.

Who is holding scientists back from doing this exactly?

Nobody currently, though fzeroracer seems to think it is unreasonable for scientists to do this.

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I'm wondering if they tried chicken noodle soup. That's been my family's home remedy for sickness and considering we seem to get better after every cold, it has a 100% success rate. To be less sardonic, it's an unreasonable question because it has zero scientific basis. I've had naturopathic family members attempt to give things to children that were definitely not safe in any shape or form.

How about the idea that you can make tea from the leaves and bark of a willow tree, and use it to treat fevers and aches and pains? Does that sound like a ridiculous folk remedy?

If you want to be remarkably disengenous and take my argument out of context, sure.

But I will not stand for people recommending alternative medicine for absolutely everything. I already had to deal with a family member doing just that, forcing random concoctions of nonsense onto a family member suffering from cancer and attempting to divert them from actual treatment. Especially when they act like they're better than doctors and can't back up their recommendations with anything remotely resembling research.

Re: A Chicago woman fell victim to Candida auris, a drug-resistant fungus

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about the idea that you can make tea from the leaves and bark of a willow tree, and use it to treat fevers and aches and pains? Does that sound like a ridiculous folk remedy?

If you want to be remarkably disengenous and take my argument out of context, sure. But I will not stand for people recommending alternative medicine for absolutely everything. I already had to deal with a family member doing just that, forcing random concoctions of nonsense onto a family member suffering from cancer and attempting to divert them from actual treatment. Especially when they act like they're better tha…

The context was that you were replying to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19686423

Within that context, you're the one being disingenuous by likening it to diverting people from actual treatment and trying random concoctions for cancer treatment.

Re: A Chicago woman fell victim to Candida auris, a drug-resistant fungus

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Did anybody tried to apply blackseed and garlic light deep - fried coconut oil concoction? Just curious, sharing as it is our sub tropical Assam-Burma jungle traditional remedy for anything and everything fungal infection since time immemorial. Regards to all.

I would personally be very interested in any resources you could link to with a recipe or similar.

It likely was not used in this case. A doctor friend of mine once told me that American doctors try to err on the side of doing things they could defend in court if sued for malpractice. Remedies of this sort probably fail to meet that standard.

I do personally know someone who served as "patient zero" in a clinical trial years ago trying to marry Western cancer treatments to non drug approaches, like diet. They lived when they should have really died. But I haven't heard of anything further coming of that initial study.

Re: A Chicago woman fell victim to Candida auris, a drug-resistant fungus

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Is this becoming a serious problem? Or is this just getting more press attention suddenly? We've had outbreaks and near-hysteria of various sorts (HIV, SARS, swine flu etc). But those seem orders of magnitude easier to manage than this fungal infection. You don't need to tear down hospital rooms after an HIV patient spent time in it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/06/health/drug-resistant-can...

> Over the last five years, it has hit a neonatal unit in Venezuela, swept through a hospital in Spain, forced a prestigious British medical center to shut down its intensive care unit, and taken root in India, Pakistan and South Africa.

> Recently C. auris reached New York, New Jersey and Illinois, leading the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to add it to a list of germs deemed “urgent threats.”

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> C. auris is so tenacious, in part, because it is impervious to major antifungal medications, making it a new example of one of the world’s most intractable health threats: the rise of drug-resistant infections.

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