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Pig brains partially revived four hours after death

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Re: Pig brains partially revived four hours after death

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post #94

Immediately reminded me of that unforgettable movie in which a 1WW soldier who have lost all his sensory inputs and motor control and is still alive brain is used for experiments. Movie title is "Johnny got his gun". No idea how mainstream it is but i suspect not that much. If you believe nothing could be worse than death, you should consider to watch it.

It was relatively unknown until Metallica based a popular song and video on it.

Re: Pig brains partially revived four hours after death

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post #94

Immediately reminded me of that unforgettable movie in which a 1WW soldier who have lost all his sensory inputs and motor control and is still alive brain is used for experiments. Movie title is "Johnny got his gun". No idea how mainstream it is but i suspect not that much. If you believe nothing could be worse than death, you should consider to watch it.

The book is better, IMHO. Dalton Trumbo. Younger people tend to be familiar with the movie via the video for Metallica's "One"

https://youtu.be/WM8bTdBs-cw

Re: Pig brains partially revived four hours after death

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post #99
post #23

Imagine donating your body to science and then waking up in a lab as a brain in a vat. "A Living Soul" by P. C. Jersild is amazing sci-fi book exploring this. https://www.amazon.com/Living-Norvik-Press-English-Swedish/d... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._C._Jersild

Or have your body frozen and brought back to life when they can cure your disease: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4074928/

Personally, I think I would rather bet on the (reincarnation) theory that if I'm good/do the right things in this life, I'll get a better body that isn't broken next time around.

Re: Pig brains partially revived four hours after death

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Freezing your head might be good idea. If one day you could simulate a braina and scan a brain in sufficient detail just freezing might be enough to keep sufficient detail. Who you are must be in chemistry of your brain not in the electricity because you are same person after epileptic seizure as before.

Does an epileptic seizure modify the slow brain wave activity? It would have less data due to a smaller sampling rate but still might be necessary to avoid "total refresh"? Have we EMPed brains before to see if they lose any prior memories?

Afaik, ECT therapy has been despised by many folk for making them forget whole weeks of their pasts.

The question is whether the electricity is causing changes or just interrupting existing flow....

Re: Pig brains partially revived four hours after death

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It'd actually be fantastic. If I've donated my brain to anything like the modern research apparatus, I can be relatively sure of one of two possibilities: Either my brain was chosen as a test, in which case the project is on the news literally worldwide and the ethics have had the crap argued out of them and I can be sure that any limitations of the environment are due to technological shortcomings and I get to parti…

The 2015 game SOMA[1] paints a far darker picture of precisely this topic: a brain donated to research. It really explores this in depth. If you're remotely interested in games I can only recommend it. [1] https://www.somagame.com/

I'd just like to chime and second the recommendation. Gameplay aside the story that it paints is amazingly well done and makes you think a lot about all the possible implications of something like that.

Re: Pig brains partially revived four hours after death

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post #80

Throwing it out there—when I'm dead, you are totally allowed to resuscitate my brain. Better than being dead. Please make sure I am supplied with some good books to read, if at all possible.

I can't relate to this at all. When I'm dead, I'd like to cease. I have no desire for my brain to outlast my body.

Me either.

The comments in this thread to the tune of "anything is better than being dead" actually kind of took me by surprise.

I can conceive of a point where technology and society has developed to a place where bodies are replaced after death with something that's worth "living" in again, but that's a long way from wanting to be a brain in a vat purely because it means I'm not technically dead.

Re: Pig brains partially revived four hours after death

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post #23

Imagine donating your body to science and then waking up in a lab as a brain in a vat. "A Living Soul" by P. C. Jersild is amazing sci-fi book exploring this. https://www.amazon.com/Living-Norvik-Press-English-Swedish/d... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._C._Jersild

I was thinking of the Bobiverse- have your head preserved for reanimation when future technology allows, only to have it declared a non-person and sold to a corporation which digitizes your brain and puts it in a satellite... https://www.amazon.com/We-Are-Legion-Bob-Bobiverse/dp/B01L08...

Excellent series, I highly recommend it!

Re: Pig brains partially revived four hours after death

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It'd actually be fantastic. If I've donated my brain to anything like the modern research apparatus, I can be relatively sure of one of two possibilities: Either my brain was chosen as a test, in which case the project is on the news literally worldwide and the ethics have had the crap argued out of them and I can be sure that any limitations of the environment are due to technological shortcomings and I get to parti…

Option 3: the experience of being disconnected from your body is so distressing that you can do nothing but attempt (and fail) to scream. The scientists have no idea you are in distress. This goes on for months or years. By the time technology develops to a point where they can communicate with you, you are irreparably broken.

Couldn't they monitor brain activity for common pain modalities?

Re: Pig brains partially revived four hours after death

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I think it's more weird to have enemies.

It takes a very specific type of person to believe that they, specifically, have enemies.

Does it? In an age where people will go through 10 years of social media history to discredit someone they have never met, the only way to not have enemies is to never say anything controversial in the public eye. Granted, that's probably a majority of people, but it isn't paranoia to suggest that there are people extreme enough to try to ruin your life just because you have different opinions.
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