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Olympic medal-winning cyclist Rebecca Twigg is homeless in Seattle

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Re: Olympic medal-winning cyclist Rebecca Twigg is homeless in Seattle

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Former editor here. This is a really interesting story, but if I were Greenstone's editor I would feel really conflicted about running it. There's the elephant in the room -- mental health. What did the reporter get on record? "She did not want to discuss mental health but feels it should be treated more seriously in Washington." Then there's her family. What did the reporter get on record? "Her immediate family in t…

Agreed. Those were the things that I spotted instantly. The first thing when you think of for homeless people is mental health. You don't have to be full-on crazy to have mental health issues that bring you down the wrong path of bad decision-making. The fact the family doesn't want to talk, that she was asked to leave by her parents, that she kept losing her job, these all speak volumes. It's terrible, but it happen…

> He stopped answering my calls and moved around so much I have no idea where he is now, or if he's even still alive.

I'm sorry to hear this; I have a friend in a similar situation.

I met my friend thru work, as a fellow SWE. An absolutely brilliant person. He had his quirks, and freely shared his past interesting experiences that indicated there were some former issues, but overall very likeable and friendly to be around. We hung out, we started doing some interesting robotics projects.

Then things fell apart for him. He lost his girlfriend, he started having automobile accidents, we watched him literally walk into a wall at work. He started to sleep under his desk. He soon decided to quit his job.

I kept in touch with him still; all signs pointed to him being bipolar/schizophrenic - and likely had always been, but his medication either wasn't working, or he wasn't taking it correctly, or something.

One day he came over to my house in an old (but well kept) conversion van; extremely custom. He told me he was going to camp in the van, etc. He told me about hearing voices. He told me that he could "stop time". He ended up giving me a watch. Then after staying with my wife and I overnight, he left the next morning. I haven't seen him since, and that was over 5 years ago.

But the story has a happy - or maybe bittersweet? - ending; and I hope you are able to have such a resolution yourself.

My wife and I still noticed that someone updated my friend's facebook page; it was the only contact we had of his that still worked. Every now and then, I'd post a comment to his page, or send him a message, letting him know I was still out here for him. I didn't hear anything.

Late last year he got in contact with me again. I was so worried that he had died or was homeless or something, somewhere - wherever the van broke down or what - I didn't know. Then out of the blue, there he was again. Sorta. At least a contact.

I let him know both my wife and I were there for him if he needed anything. He said he had got his meds under control, and while the voices still spoke, they said nice things now. So I guess that's an improvement.

At least I know he's still alive, and making some progress, whatever that is.

I hope you're able to reconnect with your friend, too - or at least have some kind of closure, even if it isn't what you wanted to hear. Sometimes that better than not knowing at all.

Re: Olympic medal-winning cyclist Rebecca Twigg is homeless in Seattle

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Seattle is a rough place to try to jump into independent living. The entry level to normal housing is pretty high.

I don't think there's a lot of onramps to doing that that don't involve years of training.

Ms. Twigg is a very sad story, and I feel for her. Her story highlights the complexity of US homelessness: not drug addiction, not simple job loss, not simple mental health issues.

Athletes in general have an issue exiting the athletic world, I've noticed. Where do you go when you leave the field and the lights are on for someone else?

I hope Ms. Twigg gets the help she needs.

Re: Olympic medal-winning cyclist Rebecca Twigg is homeless in Seattle

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> constantly staying with friends and family I wonder if truly free living is possible - looks like someone is always paying some price/ doing unfree things to make it happen.

Of course it is not possible, starting with the question of where to lay your head at night without payment. The only thing I come up with is U. S. National Forest or Bureau of Land Management land. Any other options I come up with are quasi-legal at best.

Many Walmarts allow overnight camping - but not all (and the ones that do are starting to change that policy as well).

But you're right; most everywhere else is either quasi-legal, or require money to access.

Re: Olympic medal-winning cyclist Rebecca Twigg is homeless in Seattle

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[I'm not at all denying your hypothesis. Just wishing to probe the issue further.] When women are choosing their coaches do they exhibit the same sort of choices, that you called prejudice? Maybe in general men are better at coaching? Are you assuming it is prejudice, or is that demonstrable? I wonder if sportsmen perceive that more successful sportsmen make better coaches, so female sportsmen think that males are be…

Again a simple example. Track cycling always been more difficult for athletes to make a living from, even for men. A lot of them either are integrated in traditional pro-teams or shift to road pro-cycling after their accomplishments on track. For instance Bradley Wiggins started on track then later won TdF. So part of my point was saying when there is less opportunity to make something like that (there is no true TdF…

Cool, thanks for expanding on your point.

Re: Olympic medal-winning cyclist Rebecca Twigg is homeless in Seattle

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Great read. I have a "free spirit" in my family, a really gifted man who just couldn't settle. He's now in his 60s and does mosaics for people all around the UK. He doesn't own a house and is constantly staying with friends and family. He tried working in construction jobs and other things, settling with a family and buying a house. However after his divorce and other things he is most happy with his campervan conver…

I don't think this story is about a "free spirit". Twigg was a determined athlete who doggedly pursued her passion while she could and became the best in her field. But her success in sports didn't translate over to another career. According to the article, Twigg has only been homeless for five years, and she is currently 56 years old. Twigg wasn't really a "free spirit"- She held down jobs, had kids, and made a norm…

According to the article, Twigg has only been homeless for five years

No, the article is a bit confusing on this point. Read through the whole thing, though: Twigg was homeless as a kid, before she was ever a top tier cyclist. Her mother kicked her out of the house, for some reason the article doesn't explain. This most recent stretch of homelessness has only been five years though.

Re: Olympic medal-winning cyclist Rebecca Twigg is homeless in Seattle

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She sounds like a great person and I hope things work out for her. It's hard to find the right context for her without painting her in a bad light. Some people are eager to call her (or people like her) lazy, conveniently ignoring the fact that nobody really wants to live this way. Society as it is designed now doesn't know what to do with people like her, so they're either ignored or just given shelters and... That'…

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Re: Olympic medal-winning cyclist Rebecca Twigg is homeless in Seattle

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> “Once you’ve done something that feels like you’re born to do it, it’s hard to find anything that’s that good of a fit,” Twigg says today. “Anything else that feels that way.” If she has a mental health issue, she should seek care. But if you take the above quote at face value (and likely out of context), then I would give her this advice to start building her life: "Flipping Burgers in not beneath your dignity" -…

> An entire generation has been romanticized that if you "do what you love" you'll end up a billionaire. The complete opposite is true. The implication that flipping burgers will make you a billionaire is patently absurd. You should never feel ashamed about your work, but menial work in $current_year actually leads to poverty and hunger because it doesn't pay a living wage. An "entire generation" doesn't have illusio…

That's a ridiculous exaggeration of my words. Flipping burgers will put a roof over your head, buy you some food, and give you a small amount of savings. From there you move up. Better education, better job, more savings.

Re: Olympic medal-winning cyclist Rebecca Twigg is homeless in Seattle

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As a European, it always baffles me how normal it is in US to be homeless. Seems like it can happen to anyone during their life. A bit of bad luck and you're on the street. In Europe, there are so many safety nets that nobody should end up homeless. Some still do, but it's really a tiny minority compared to US. This is also one of the most surprising things I saw, the first time I went to the US: so many homeless peo…

Even reading the comments in here sheds very interesting light: People discussing about why is the person homeless: Is it because of mental issues? is it because of laziness? is it because of bad luck?

It doesn't matter! it should not matter. People should not be homeless, and the different safety nets should be agnostic of the reasons (otherwise you are catering only for the mental health issues, and you still have homeless drug addicts, or homeless bad-luck people).

Re: Olympic medal-winning cyclist Rebecca Twigg is homeless in Seattle

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> “Once you’ve done something that feels like you’re born to do it, it’s hard to find anything that’s that good of a fit,” Twigg says today. “Anything else that feels that way.” If she has a mental health issue, she should seek care. But if you take the above quote at face value (and likely out of context), then I would give her this advice to start building her life: "Flipping Burgers in not beneath your dignity" -…

> An entire generation has been romanticized that if you "do what you love" you'll end up a billionaire.

She's 56, so... which generation is that?

Re: Olympic medal-winning cyclist Rebecca Twigg is homeless in Seattle

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> An entire generation has been romanticized that if you "do what you love" you'll end up a billionaire. The complete opposite is true. The implication that flipping burgers will make you a billionaire is patently absurd. You should never feel ashamed about your work, but menial work in $current_year actually leads to poverty and hunger because it doesn't pay a living wage. An "entire generation" doesn't have illusio…

That's a ridiculous exaggeration of my words. Flipping burgers will put a roof over your head, buy you some food, and give you a small amount of savings. From there you move up. Better education, better job, more savings.

You said (paraphrased) "doing what you love will not make you a billionaire. The opposite is true. You should go flip burgers." This can either mean "doing what you love will make you poor. And also you should flip burgers" or "doing things you don't like will make you a billionaire." It's possible I misunderstood what you were saying, but whichever point you were trying to make, it's a patronizing extension of the typical boomer "millennials are entitled" refrain.

> Flipping burgers will put a roof over your head, buy you some food, and give you a small amount of savings.

None of these are true. I'm not sure when the last time you worked an entry level job like this was, but they haven't paid anything close to a living wage in a very long time.

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